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i own a 16.1 tbx and i ride him in a snaffle and drop noseband for everyday and dressage, i showjump him however in a combination noseband and gag! (hes soooooo strong!) he is a very froward going horse but after lots of showjumping lessons and spending lots of money i have mangaged to calm him down when jumping!
now i need a differnet bit to jump him in! something that will allow hi to go forward but will still give me brakes if i need them! have tried gags, pelams and snaffles! i need something in the middle???? peolpe have said a baucher of doctor bristol???

2006-11-22 23:21:23 · 9 answers · asked by sarah n 1 in Pets Other - Pets

he is rode with a martingale at all jumping events! ive tried market harbroughs and all other trainning aids!!!

2006-11-22 23:28:42 · update #1

ive tried a double bridle as i do working hunter classes and i managed ok but the jumps aint to big! unfortunatly i bsja at foxhunter level and its to awkward to jump with double bridle!

2006-11-23 00:07:38 · update #2

i have lessons 2 days a week from a top showjumper! he acepts the bit and goes forward but the problem i have is now the waterford gag is too server for him! i need a happy medium to jump him in! something that allows him to go forward but if he takes a wobbler (which is quite common) i can steady him up!

2006-11-24 02:13:37 · update #3

9 answers

The trouble is not that you need more bit, it is that you need more communication with your horse, which does not come from metal, but from education. He needs to learn to respect your hands, and I do not suggest you get that respect from moving to a stronger bit. A good instructor can teach you and your horse how to work together, so your horse does not lean on the bit. If you do not have a good instructor in your area, you can e-mail me, and I will help you out on a personal basis.

2006-11-23 16:47:30 · answer #1 · answered by JouLe 2 · 0 0

Have you tried using "connectors" on the gag? oh, and is it a "rope gag"? or a "portuguese gag"? the portugues is softer than a rope, and it still gives control.
I presume that you do alot of cavelletties and the like as these are very good for teaching your horse control over fences.
also you could try a combination of a hackamore (longshank) w/a plain leather curb, and a "double jointed" bit like a french snaffle or "KK". you ride on a double rein, but as with a double bridle (which personally i HATE as there's to much metal in the horses mouth), the "curb" rein is merely an emergency break as it were.
I rode one of my horses in this and it worked a treat!
Well, hope this has helped, good luck!!!

2006-11-23 05:53:17 · answer #2 · answered by Kismet 3 · 0 0

I know it's a bit weird, but try a double bridle. You might find this a little tricky to jump with, but it will give you brakes and more control. You might also try splashing out on high end training. I would recommend Knights End Farm in the Fens. Costs around £50 for a lesson, but well worth it.

Good luck.

2006-11-22 23:34:47 · answer #3 · answered by Alice S 6 · 1 0

Hi,

Great care needs to be taken when trying different bits. I take it that you have used a Instructor to have a look at both of you working? At the end of the day, you need to look at the situation holistically and work on re-training your horse ( a horse can go fast out of fear as well as out of enthusiasm). You could try a Waterford bit (they can have Baucher sides to them, but I would recommend a good (Registered BHS Instructor) to have a look and see where adjustments can be made so that your horse goes in a rhythm and settled without being headstrong.

Hope that helps

Rosie

2006-11-23 03:37:47 · answer #4 · answered by Huntersmoonmahogany 1 · 1 0

Try a slow twits snaffle, cause its has more whoa than a snaffle, but not to much as to if you just barly touch it, it rips his mouth open, i ride my 6 yr old morgan quarter horse cross in it and she is a very high strung horse and i've never had a problem with her, very easy to jupm in even if you pop him in the mouth by acident, it won't hurt him, like i said its stronger than a snaffle, but not as strong and a gag, very good to jump with...

2006-11-23 11:58:46 · answer #5 · answered by Amanda K 1 · 0 0

Have you considered using a discombobulator? It works directly on the part of the brain known as Shatners Bassoon.

2006-11-22 23:32:17 · answer #6 · answered by cockarseballs 2 · 0 0

have you tried a double bridle and a wilkie bit.. A friend of mine had a similar problem and someone recommended she try them and she's had excellent results since.. good luck

2006-11-22 23:48:11 · answer #7 · answered by . 6 · 0 0

try getting a myler bit fitter to come and watch you, they can tell you what you need, the bits and them are rather expensive but VERY worth it!!!

2006-11-23 05:22:54 · answer #8 · answered by blackandbob 2 · 0 0

try him with a martingale Reine

2006-11-22 23:26:03 · answer #9 · answered by Bella 7 · 0 0

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