How many more suicides at Christmas will it take before fathers get equal custody rights to their children?

Question

Seriously. Is anything being done to change the law in favour of fathers (and for kids by virtue of eqal access to both their parents)

OMG no life louis
I can't believe you just said something so idiotic

CHADNESS
Who said anything about children who need protecting? I'm thinking about your every day Joe Normal who had kids with a woman who it didn't work out with. These are the guys who are being sent insane

TIFFANY R
What utter rubbish
mothers get kids 999 times out of 1000
Wake up woman. You can tell a court the mother is a heroin addict, alcaholic prostitute and you still wouldn't get your kids

ANGEL
Who's best interests were served there?
How about no access, no money

NEWGRAN
if only there were more like you
Thanks for that glimmer of hope to all those dads out there who miss their kids

MISSY M
Why isn't anyone asking the same of the nmothers. I know so many kids who's upbringing would be better with the father

MARK G
Visitation is no good to father or child. There's no compromise for just being in the same room as your child without feeling the need to take them somewhere because time is limited. Seeing them every day is the key to a relationship

CLARE B
A person driven insane can't be selfish. Depression is an illness and it has it's triggers. Seems to be all about money for you, You'll never on the receiving end so you'll never understand these men. Try looking at the cause of the temporary insanity. Because you have to be insane to override your natural instinct for self presevation

LIL BRAINIAC
you have a voice of reason
you should use that well

VIOLET
Joint custody IS joint physical custody nothing less is fair. Men have to leave the house cos women wont and houses are awarded to women to maintain the children while the man is left to fend for himself on what is left to live on after that expense

WHO THE HELL IS THUNBS DOWNING THIS QUESTION. THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR HALF THE CHILFREN IN THE COUNTRY NOW. YOU 4 LOSERS WHOEVER YOU ARE

Answer 1

I can understand exactly where your coming from. It must be horrendous to have Christmas without your kids and some dads not even being able to buy or send a present or even a card. That's enough to drive you to suicide, and that's why some dads do it. Its the act of not seeing their kids which puts them in that situation, and your right this is ordinary guys who may not even have done anything wrong to make the marriage breakdown in the first place but they have to suffer.
When my first husband and I split up we both made sure the kids came first and there never was any issues over where they stayed, if they wanted to spend Christmas with him then that was fine with me as he was a great dad but not a great husband. Kids are now grown up and still have a great relationship with him.
As a mum I would not like to be in the position some dads are put in.

Try and remember this is temporary, your kids will grow up mum, can only have custody til they are 16. They will knock on your door one day. and then you'll be able to give them your side of the story.if mum has them til 16 you might have them til 70 you will win in the end, take care

Answer 2

I don't think the law should be changed in favour of the father. How about changing it in favour of the children. I would love to see more fathers take an active role in rasing their children. My uncle had to fight long and hard for joint custody but he got it and he is a far better parent than his ex. (she was a great person but a terrible mother) But there are a lot of men who don't care enough to fight for the change. My ex is a great example. He pays nothing in support and never visits. I don't push him to pay because I don't want my child to lose the little contact he has with him. We need to start thinking about what is best for the children.
When parents separate the children do not automatically go to the mother. (many times the father leaves the home and the children in it.) If a father were to leave and take the children perhaps he would have an easier time maintaining access. Where I live it is possible for parents to have equal access assuming no flase accusations are made. (in fact the court prefers joint custody-not always joint physical custody though)

Answer 3

Courts are still stuck in the past where the mothers stayed at home and the father worked. I have actually heard a judge tell a father that he did not care if the children's mother had a serious drug habit as long as she fed them and kept a roof over their head then she would have custody! Statistics show that children with no or little contact with their fathers are more likely to take drugs, quit school, commit crimes, join gangs and get pregnant while still in school. If the mother gets custody that is fine, but the father (barring abusive men) should get plenty of visitation rights. Not just every other weekend. You cannot be a father just four days a month. Most kids in Juvenile hall have no father at home or very little contact with the father

Answer 4

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Answer 5

Its totally out of order that some woman refuse to let the fathers see thier children, the only thing that fathers can do is go through the legal process. I do sort of agree with 'no_life_louis' that if they are that unstable then the mothers are right. They want to commit suicide then they are just being selfish and feeling sorry for themselves its the child that will suffer in the long run. 16 years old want to find your dad, were is he? oh hes dead he killed himself. My daughters father commited suicide through depression 4 years ago and my daughter is 10 years old she is still very upset because she doesnt have a dad. He is total f****n b*****d for being so selfish and doing that to her.

Answer 6

Ooh serious question. I agree with you, unfortunately some women see the kids as something to use as a weapon during a split.
The sad thing is that Fathers for Justice was a great idea originally and they had good intentions, unfortunately all these extremists came along and used the name to do stupid stunts that set them back. Its sad really.
My brother left his wife for someone else and she refused to let him see his kids, if he'd taken her to court his kids were old enough to be asked who they wanted to live with. He didn't want to put them through this but his ex did. So he had to let it go, and now he hasn't seen them in 14 years, still has to pay for them though.

Answer 7

i am the father of two children taken from the country to a war torn hell most of the people able to leave have and the corts have left there mother in charge of them with no attempt to stop them leaveing the country the statement innocent untill proven guilty is clearly of on value when full custody goes to the mother and a father is left with one or two hours a week to continue a relationship and the depraved noation that a man faced with being removed from his childrens lifes is week because he cant find the strenght to continue is tipical of those who would themselves never have the strenght of carracter to survive anything like what they so readily pass judgement on may they be judged in like amen

Answer 8

yea i duno! i think its sad, come on peoples, if they were bad daddys they wouldnt want to see their kids. i think unless there is a justified reason like alchol abuse or something, than both parents should have joint custody.

ps: a patriot, not all women play the equal rights card. its selfish people who just use whatever they can to benefit them, unfortunately there are many selfish women, but the same can be said of any group of people.

Answer 9

Anyone who'd take there own life is too bloody selfish to be a parent..Imagine the poor kids been told Xmas morning your dad killed himself because your mum wouldn't let you kids see him..that bites...Yes I do believe in equal rights for parents but the kids welfare should be the up most important thing and i don't just mean the hear and now i mean there bloody future as well...

Answer 10

No idea. Maybe you should dress up as Batman and climb Nelson's Column to speed the process along.