Is thanksgiving an immigrant celebration?

Question

This was started by illegal immigrants when they came to this country without any paperwork or authority. The shared a meal with the people they then took land from and killed them with comunicable deceases and weaponary brought from Europe. Just when you thought you are legal, you find that your ancestors where not only illegal but also criminals. If the truth hurts, sound off and let me know.

Answer 1

This was before the Americas were civilized, times change.
Don't try to use some back in the day nonsense to justify illegal immigrants.

My paternal grandparents came here legally. Not everyone can trace their relatives from the first settlers, those people are rare.

Answer 2

Well historically, it's said that Thanksgiving was celebrated for the first time by the Pilgrims, the English protestants, who fled from England seeking for religious freedom, and who landed on Cape Cod, Virginia. However, some people also said that They werent the first ones, that the Spanish colonists who settled down on Florida, were the creators of the celebration.

Well, the land on which the US stands, is actually, in my opinion, a land with no native people from the beginning. According to the accepted theory of the Americas' population, their first inhabitants immigrated from Asia to America through the Bering land bridge, so if we see it from that point, Everybody is an inmigrant, everyone. But since the country itself was founded by the English settlers descendants, the Americans, they are the ones who have the rights over this land, and there's nothing that we inmigrants can do about it, just stick to their rules, and mostly the illegal ones, the legal have more opportunities to protect their rights.

I think you are too resentful, just live your life, and dont let anyone to make you feel bad or humiliated for being an inmigrant. Besides inmigrants have also helped this nation to grow, in one way or another, and that is an undeniable fact.

Answer 3

Actually they didn't come here illegally. Think your changing history to suit your simpathy for the illegal criminals entering our country now. If you want to quote history at least be right. The Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria were legally chartered ships sailing to an unsettled area. The indians were not opposed to their landing and presence. It was later in history that the conflict with the indians arose. At the time in history they landed the area was mostly "unsettled" and their were not laws in place to prevent entry. The diiference that you fail to recognize is that the United States is settled and has laws now. The pilgrams were breaking no laws as the Mexican Illegal immigrants are today!

Answer 4

Ok.. Once again I'm gonna post this. I'm not going to fall into an emotional out pouring of why or why not the questioner is wrong. Just read this & see if you agree.

"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of any nation. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907
Twenty-sixth President of the United States

Answer 5

I really wish people would stop generalising Americans into one category of being these terrible, gun toting, land-seizing barbarians. Not ALL of "Americans" are ethnically American but - and this is coming from a first generation American with no "roots" to this country whatsoever - not all can go back hundreds of years and say that their great great great, etc. grandparents landed in this country and seized all possession of land and property to those that it righfully belonged to. Actually, only a very small portion of Americans can do that. Not to mention, the idea of "legal" immigrant status wasn't established until the 1940s, some 300 years after this country was colonised by the British.

P.S. Mexico SOLD California, Arizona, and a portion of Texas to the Americans - read that in your history books. It was not all about violent takeover, only SOME of it was.

Answer 6

Thanksgiving is for everybody. Plenty of Hispanics celebrate it too. Illegal immigration is a separate issue. Since not all of what you have said is true it doesn't hurt. Better to stick to the facts.

Answer 7

That's an excellent insight. And points exactly to why the Natives that helped the Pilgrims to survive deserve all the celebration on Thanksgiving.

Americans can't make up for the slaughter and theft of the ancestors, but they can make sure that the Natives finally know that they are greatly appreciated. Say

Kwe Kwe. Skennenko:wa ken? - Hello. How are you? to the spirits in the Mohawk language

Answer 8

Do you really believe we should let everyone from south america into america illegally? Do you think we can afford this realistically? I ask this is as a legal puerto rican immigrant.

Answer 9

The Colonist were not illegal immigrants, this country was not formed, no territories were drawn out. Those Colonist that landed layed the seeds, that started the growth of this country. After this country was formed, laws were created to govern all this land, but untill then there were no immigration laws.

Answer 10

When the first WASP came in America, they didn't have any passport every american is an immigrant excepting indians and blacks and also people you call "Aliens"; all white people in america are immigrants.