Catholics: Do I have this right?

Question

As a gay ex-Catholic thinking of returning to the Church, I've long struggled with the Church's prohibition of homosexual activity and marriage. But now I think I finally understand the policy... could you please tell me if I'm correct? Thank you!

Homosexual activity is prohibited because there's no way that a couple can conceive a child; that's why contraceptives are banned too. Of course it is still a good thing to show affection with one's spouse, but there are other ways to do that then having sex, and if you're not leaving the possibility of conception open, then you're misusing the God-given gift of sexuality. Homosexuals and bisexuals are just as good as heterosexuals, and must be treated that way, but it must also be understood that sex is for making babies first and foremost. Pleasure and whatnot is good too but it's not the whole thing, and if that's the focus it is distracting from God's intention. Technically sterile people and postmenopausal women shouldn't have sex ...

Either, because that’s also closed to life, but there are not any official rules on that matter.

Gays can’t marry because sex is allowed between married couples and if gays can get married then they can have sex, which contradicts the above point. *my opinion: But then, sterile people shouldn’t be allowed to get married either; or sex should not be a central point in allowing marriage, as adoptions, fostering, or not having children at all are other options.

I understand how the Church means this, and I almost think that I agree, although I’ll have to pray more about it.

Of course I do sort of wish that the rules were different, because I'd love to have a wife and children in the Church, but I understand that there are much higher callings than my own wishes, and I think that's the Church's point.

Thanks, MightyRighty... I think you're right, and it does help. I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving too. But you do mean that "Jesus would NOT have told a homosexual to get out of his presence [...]." ?

Adolfo M, you have a good point in your first paragraph but I do not see why ordination of a gay man should be a problem. Also, the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of homosexual activity, they were destroyed because of inhospitality. (I mean, how hospitable is it to form a mob outside someone's house and demand that they throw their guest out? "Know" doesn't mean have sex with, it means "figure out where the guy is from".) But thank you for your beautiful blessing; I hope that it returns to you and everyone else here on Yahoo

Answer 1

I am a Catholic and I suspect you are right about it being a procreation thing more than an affection thing. However, I think the Catholic church goes over board trying to enforce its traditions and beliefs. I think time can sometime change beliefs and therefore change traditions and rules. For some reason the Catholic Church has a hard time changing along with the times. I think the most important thing that any religion out there tries to convey is love. It shouldn't matter who you love or why you love just as long as you love and understand and have an open mind. God doesn't want people to hate, God doesn't want people to discriminate so why does the Catholic Church discriminate against homosexuals. I don't get that. It goes against what God and Jesus symbolize and that is understanding and a willingness to except. Jesus would have told a homosexual to get out of his presence or that he/she was not worthy because of their sexual connotations. He would except them with open arms and ask them to join him and sit with him. My friend just be yourself and live your life with love and understanding and don't let anyone else tell you how to live or love. I hope this helps and take care and have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

Answer 2

What is not allowed is homosexual sex, you are right because this is done with the simple objective of satisfiying one's carnal desirs and is not done in the framework of love between a man and a woman that is conceived so it can bear fruits as a family. Those couples who are sterile and want to get married are prompted to actually adopt children. You see; for the Church the family is the basic unit of society out of which the individual is formed for life, and this institution must be protected and safeguared, whence the sacrament of matrimony, to which Christ himself said: "what God has put together, let no man put assunder".

St Paul in his epistle to the Cprinthians is even more specific, saying that no practicing homosexual will enter the kingdom of heaven. So it really makes me wonder why those Episcopalians and Anglicans have overlooked this versicle and continue to perform same sex marriages and ordain practicing homosexuals, is just against Christ and His teachings.

The catholic church does not say that all homosexuals will end up in hell. those that have this tendency are called to chastity. It's important to say here that we catholics do believe that a person with deep homosexual orientation from childhood and not becasue of his own carnal election later is actuially and really loved and called by God to come to him, God does not reject him/her because of that but is called to aspire and lead a life os sanctity just like any other believer.

Remember in the bible Sodom and Gomorra, why was it destroyed? bingo, there is your answer too.

May God bless you and the peace of our Lord Jeus Christ be with you always and that you may seek him all the days of your life. Amen



Hey Mighty Rig, if you call yourself a catholic then you should know that the church DOES NOT change, ever. The church does not fold to the whims and desires of any current age, because the church is a divine institution with christ as its head. Basically if you don't like what the church teaches and what are the requirements it sets for as true spiritual life, then don't folow it. is your decision. Basically, the Church has rules, if you wanna be in the club you have to follow those rules, and these rules are not open to discussion, it's not a democracy nor a secular organization. The church serves to lead men to salvation and period. Think about that.
People is free to do in their bedrooms whatever they please, what the church simply says is that if you wanna be a christian then you must reject sin, period.

Answer 3

Yes, I agree you must pray more and I will pray with you. However I believe we should pray about something far more important than what the Catholic or any other church says. In fact maybe we don't need to pray at all! I think we should just obey the scriptures the churches are suppose to teach anyway like this one: LEVITICUS 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind;
as with womankind; it is abomination. If you or i join any other organization we will be required to obey that organizations rules. If you want to be a part of God's church you must obey those rules as well. It really is true you can't have your cake and eat it too! No pun intended.

Answer 4

God bless you. You may already know this but it is not a sin to be gay only in living the homosexual lifestyle. Gay people are called to a vow of chastity and I understand the difficulty this may impose but by the Grace of God it can be done and your glory in heaven will be great. God, did not make men so that they should use one another in this way. Very often an abuse at a very young age enables one to summit to that abuse and sometimes deems it to be of a natural origin and even when it seems so, it can be overcome nevertheless. This can prove difficult in this day and age when society facilitates this disordered behaviour which gives a greater importance to not live of the world. God loves you so very much and he will help you out of that difficulty if you give your sufferings to him. Good luck and God Bless.

Answer 5

It's not because of that reason. I'm Catholic and have gone to Confirmation classes. There was the teacher who once said " gay people are sick". I don't have anything against gays and I think they should have the same rights as us. Is not because of that reason, they just hate you! They're homophobic. They're against IVF, birth control, and stem cell. Sterile people are allowed to get marry they just adopt. So it's not about fertilization but they're just anti-gay. If you want to go back to the church, then do it. Despite the homophobic teacher I like going to church and listen to the priest talk. It's a nice religion if you get past that.

Answer 6

well the point is God created a man and a woman....not a man and a man or vice versa. the main purpose was reproduction... which a man and a man cant do it. another thing yes sex is centro part of gaysm....what exactly do they do whn in the bed together?? with a man and a woman u dont need to ask that...its a tough question and u will have different answers..this is my view.

Answer 7

Sweetie...you need to forget about what the church says(they don't obey their own rules anyway). What you need to do is read the Holy Bible(not the Cathoilc's version) and see what GOD says about you.

Answer 8

The church needs to stay out of everyone's bedrooms! OK, here come the thumbs' down police...