i was in that situation i had a same sex relationship for 6 years but have now returned to my faith am married and have 2 children .. It was hard to leave the lifestyle of my faith and then hard to leave the homosexual lifestyle but i have no regrets for the experience it has made me who i am toady ..i believe your faith will win in the end ...god bless
2006-11-22 00:57:53
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answered by Anonymous
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First, to get something clear, I believe you meant "condemns" for "condones" (the words are actually opposites).
I presume I would be a teenager at this point.
I'm afraid I wouldn't have had the courage to seek help, but it would have been the best thing.
I probably would have just stuffed it down and tried to pretend I wasn't feeling that way, and, if I had been really sincere in accpeting Christ, would have struggled to remain faithful to Him. And probably fallen into all sorts of problems.
From a more mature stanpoint today, I would say the best thing I could have done if I had been in such a situation, would have been to seek help, from a Christian psychologist who would have understood my views, and family's views, on homosexuality.
Psychologists on the rinciple of Jay Adams: "Follow the Bible, and you'll be alright" work in some situations, but I doubt it would work in the case you are describing.
I would recommend a Christian psychologist who actually has studied secular psychology, but who has deep -rooted Christian pricncipes and has been able to make the connection between the two.
Normally, such a counsellor would not be judgmental, but would listen, accept you as you are, lead you to explore what in your life and in your past have accepted your thinking patterns, and help you to explore ways of changing those patterns.
Often something in our childhood influences our future thought patterns, even in the sexual area. I know a man - a pastor, who was giving us courses in psychology. He described his struggles with homosexuality. He had been a practicing homosexual in his teens, then came to know the Lord. To walk as a good Christian, he renounced his homosexuality, eventually married, had two children, went off to seminary, came back and became pastor of a growing church. Well, while he was in seminary, he had to face up to the fact that he was still stuggling terribly with his homosexuality. Life was becoming a nightmare. He finally realized, through counselling, that as a small child, feeling ingnored by his father, he used to fantasize at how he could get his father's attention.
In any case he was finally able to get help and change his thinking pattern.
Each person has a different story, but same principles will help. Get, or tell your friend to, get good Christian professional help.
God bless!
2006-11-22 08:52:29
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answered by Mr Ed 7
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Wow, that would be tough! Condones means it's okay with God so that makes the family against Gods word in thew context of Your question. Interesting premise I guess. So then, the family is against the word of God in this scenario and yet they ascribe to this, a paradox is then the conflict ignition point when this homosexual desire is introduced. Hmmmm, I'd go with the family; they'd be more supportive than God; of Whom I've found to be less than interested in my personal day to day issues. Plus all that gay stuff isn't all it's cracked up to be from my observations of how they treat each other, not to mention how they are treated by heterosexual folk. I must comment that I find it very strange that You'd have God condoning homosexuality and they family would be apposed to this if they were devout; but hey it's Your question! Take care and if Your an Americano have a Happy Thanksgiving!
2006-11-22 08:48:14
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answered by Anonymous
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There is no help or cure for homosexuality because it's not a disease. People are simply born that way, it's been proven. I suppose that I would be true to myself if I was in that situation and realize that I had only one life and wouldn't want to spend it pretending to be someone else. Just because someone was raised a certain way does not mean that they have to continue blindly following the same path. At some time in your life you have to start thinking for yourself and simply be who you are. I was raised a strict Catholic but later questioned those beliefs and then realized how I'd been brainwashed into believing Catholic propaganda. It helps to have a supportive friend, or find a support group somewhere. Most people, finding themselves in the situation that you presented, would feel alone and isolated. I know that Christians have a narrow view on homosexuality, but I think that their view, like that of the Catholics, is also a brainwash. If there is a God, you must know that he is all loving and all accepting.
2006-11-22 08:53:50
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answered by jicour 3
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In a situation like that, no one could "live life like nothing's happening". The Bible condemns the ACT of homosexuality as it condemns fornication, murder, idolatry. It does not condemn PEOPLE with homosexual feelings. If I were you (the hypothetical individual), I would be open with my parents about it or at least open up to someone older, spiritually more mature and ask for their guidance in dealing with the situation.
At this age, one shouldn't be sexually active anyway and perhaps it's just out of whack hormones from puberty (although I tend to agree that one is either born gay or not) so just take it easy and try to keep your mind on school, family, friends, bible study.
This world places so much emphasis on sex and sexual relationships. There's much more to life. Focus on these things at your age and deal with finding a life partner when the time is right for it. But please don't go through this alone. You need the support of your parents and the strength of God to deal with this.
No one is better than you.
2006-11-22 12:40:21
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answered by krobin 2
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I'm going to answer in a simplistic way. I would ask myself if I loved God more or do I love my sin more. That would be easy to answer if I were truly a Christian. If I have repented and put my trust in Christ then I would choose God.
We all have to deal with sin and homosexuality is just one branch on the tree of sexual sin. There is fornication, adultery, and lust. If I have a desire for any of these I must give them up as well. That's not to say we won't struggle. But if we love God there should at least be a battle and not a giving in.
BTW, the only help I would seek is the help of a church elder. They would be able to help determine whether I was truly saved or just a false convert (a tare amoung the wheat). The Bible says there will be many who call upon the name of the Lord, thinking they are saved but find on judgement day they never were. Wouldn't you want to know? If someone really is seeking God then they should be willing to submit to church authority. They may have to set you outside the church, which is Biblical (Matthew 18). But they must welcome you back once you have repented and God has given you victory in whatever sin you struggle with.
2006-11-22 08:53:37
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answered by Anonymous
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What a thoughtful question. It deserves more than a drive-by answer.
First, I'm going to refer to this as "you" even though you may not be talking about yourself. You were raised as a christian, and that the bible is literal truth and that the bible condemns homosexuality. (I was too!) These three things are very big "givens" in your situation. Any one of them might not be "true" because you've never really examined them. You were taught this FROM BIRTH and taught not to question. There is a possibility that it is not 100% true. Christianity might not be true. The bible might not be literal and the bible might not condemn homosexuality in the way you were taught.
So, just so we have it "out there" that - perhaps christianity isn't the only way to god, that god MIGHT not condemn you or that god might not even exist.
Having said that, you're not going to leap from "good christian kid" to atheist just like that. It's going to take some work and research on your own to determine the truth of the bible. (I would strongly recommend: www.internetinfidels.org to get a little balance about the bible.)
The thing is - regarding your homosexuality - scientists are finding out more all the time about it. One thing is that it appears to be a gene that makes one homosexual. http://www.webmd.com/content/article/100/105486.htm This truly isn't a CHOICE that you have. It would be like condemning someone because they have the wrong blood type.
So I wouldn't just strongly encourage you NOT to deny who you really are, I would beg you. And wow, I don't think I've ever used those words here. If this is what you are, no amount of WILLPOWER is going to change it anymore than you could wish away your eye color.
I would encourage you to NOT hate yourself for who you are and to not try to change. Practically speaking, you still live with your christian family so...yes, they will likely have a hard time with this. I wouldn't recommend you talk to them about it until you are ok about it within yourself.
You do need to talk to SOMEONE about it though. I would recommend talking to a trusted friend. Do you have a relative that is VERY trusted? Perhaps even an online friend.
Give it some time. Read about the science of it more to find out that it's not a choice. I'm talking way too much here :) I hope you get good responses to this. Best wishes to you!
2006-11-22 08:49:45
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answered by Black Parade Billie 5
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What a great question.
I would wait it out at least until I was finished High School before telling anyone. When hormones first hit it can be a really unstable time both sexually and emotionally. I would let them even themselves out before I make up my mind about myself. That way, if it turns out I really am homosexual, I will have time to figure out how I will deal with it with my family.
Another good reason for waiting is that if I am only at the age of puberty, and want to live harmoniously with my parents, they still have a lot of power. If I tell them now, they might send me to get counselling with someone who doesn't understand my situation and will hurt me with condemnation, and further isolate me. Even if I want counselling, I will not be in charge of the situation, and might not be able to find the counsel I need without causing problems with my parents. If I were to wait until I am older, then I will be in charge and can easily remove myself from potentially damaging situations.
I would expect that this kind of family would also promote abstinance before marriage? In that case I shouldn't be sexually active regardless until I was older than in this scenario. So, by waiting it out, I wouldn't be losing anything.
I would also think about the relationships in my life. Is there a reason why I seem to prefer the same sex? Is the root basis for my attraction truly sexual or is it that I want to be like the person I am attracted to? (I'm sure there are other questions I might ask myself, but I don't know them all...I guess I would ask God to help me ask the right questions, as well as finding the right answers).
It would be ideal for me to have someone I could tell and discuss it with, and hopefully I would eventually find someone, but if most of the important people in my life are homophobic, it will change the way they see me, and isolate me drastically. If I seek out someone who is homo-friendly, they might affirm these feelings too much before I am completely ready, without even getting to know me. I'm not saying this would be true with everyone, but there is an ongoing campaign for equality for homosexuals, and often people don't have as much objectivity when they are in "campaign" mode. (The phobes are in a similar sort of mode too)
If I don't tell anyone until I am older then all I would have to deal with at present would be the feelings that I have. I am not being deceptive by doing this, because as far as I know, this isn't something that I asked for, and I am still working through everything. (It would become a deception later if it turned out I was truly homosexual and I still got married to someone of the opposite sex). For the time being, I would pray through those feelings, and ask God to guide me and to be my true counsellor.
Waiting isn't fun, but it's something everyone has to do regardless of orientation.
Q: How does the Bible condone homosexual acts?
Condone = approve
Condemn = disapprove
2006-11-22 09:46:41
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answered by Anonymous
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Hello delusion_... :)
I grew up in an Atheist home, but I will try and answer your question to the best of my ability.. :)
My sister was openly gay, she did not care what others thought..but after being beat up by her girlfriend, she went to church and asked Christ into her heart..
She no longer had the same opinions or feelings that she had before, she has been happily married for many years, she has 6 children..5 boys and one little girl..
I know this is only one situation..but this is all I can present to you.. :)
Have a Great Thanksgiving Day.. :)
In Jesus Most Precious Name..
With Love..In Christ.. :)
2006-11-22 08:47:03
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answered by EyeLovesJesus 6
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My advice would be the same regardless of the sin. What if this young person desired to be a serial arsonist? A thief? A liar? An adulterer?
There is not one example throughout all of history of even one Christian who hasn't struggled with some form of sin in his or her life. We are all called to repent from sin and turn away from it. Think of what happened to Lot's wife, who regretted leaving Sodom and "looked back." Jesus commands us to overcome the world by taking up our crosses EACH day; when we do this, we share in His humiliation AND, by force of will, we overcome the effects of sinful influences all around us. It's by excercising consistency that a believer overcomes sin in their lives. As Jesus said, "anyone who puts his hand to the plow and turns back is unfit for the Kingdom of God."
I realize this is a highly controversial statement, but I'd tell this person that psychological research proves a person is NOT "born gay." Sadly, this concept is being taught as a fact by today's liberal society. When a person understands this AND realizes that Jesus gives us all the strength we need in order to overcome all sin, there is victory.
Peace.
2006-11-22 08:46:32
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answered by Suzanne: YPA 7
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homosexuality is not a choice, neighter it's the disease, so you can't be cured of it. If it were a choice, why would you choose it, makes sense? Stay true to your sexuality or you're going to be a very depressed and unhappy individual. You can also believe in God, nothing's wrong with that, God would want you to be happy, no matter what you do behind closed doors.
2006-11-22 09:04:00
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answered by venus11224 6
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