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Question

i have a mormon teacher who wants me to go to church and i said no i told herthat the mormons commited and still do commit adultery that goes to show you among other things like god murdering his people on earth hes a ******* hippocrite!!!!!!!!!! he tells us not to murder and he goes out and does it anyway wtf feel free to object to this but whatever

whered u get that crap he keeps the souls for himself hello they are still dead

i can prove to yu god doesnot exist birds and you can prove he "supposedly exists"
so whatever thats your opinion
btw im a pagan/wiccan call me a heathern tell me im going to hell whatever ill be better off

Answer 1

You do whatever you want. mormons, wtf do they know? what the *** does anybody know about this god person to hell with it all I say. Have fun with your life, and do whatever you wish NOW!! Because when its over, its ****** over!!! No god, no allah, no buda, nobody keeping tabs, or scoring points in the end. YOUR DEAD. DEAD IS DEAD!!!

Answer 2

First: Christianity has obviously warped another mind.
You're looking at religion all wrong. I have close friends that have created their own god, all that matters is that you believe in some higher power, even yourself.

Second: God isn't a hypocrite, it's not human, it's energy. Neither Male nor Female.

Third: Do what makes you happy. If you want to become part of the machine, another christian robot, good. If you want to celebrate with the witches, fine. If you want to follow the path to enlightenment, great.

But do not be completely influenced by what man teaches, use what you believe in your heart.

Answer 3

Don't go to the Mormon church. There are bigger reasons than the one you suggest. I don't know of the "adultery" you talk about.
God doesn't murder His people. There are more questions under this that we dont have time to get into here.

Answer 4

God doesn't kill anyone. He just recalls their souls back to Himself. They are still alive in spirit, which is their true self. Don't believe you are your body because your body will die one day. Your true identity is your soul, which will never die.

Edit: By the way, God does not keep the souls. He will resurrect all of humanity and all will stand for questioning about how they lived their lives on the Day of Judgment. Do you deny that day is coming?

Answer 5

The morons..hmmm..Mormons have accepted the lie of a man who thought he could play God.
It is no longer Jesus's church,but Joseph Smith's church.
God clearly stated that His word was not to be added to or taken away from!
The last statement God made to us was Jesus! Not Joseph Smith!
God does not kill ppl,hon.Ppl kill ppl!
In the Old Testament,before He sent Jesus,we had to do alot of things to save ourselves & God did have to punish us ,but that is why He sent Jesus.All we have to do is follow His instrudtions in the New Testament & accept His sacrifice for us,admit we are a sinner & be baptised for the remission of our sins

Answer 6

No agreement here, You all try so hard to dis-prove God, That you are pushing yourself in a hole, Because you can nOT proved that God does not exist, But I can pove to you he does. I am waiting for you to prove god does not exist, give me facts & not your ideal. I have facts that he does exist. So lay your proof out there for me.

Answer 7

please call yourself something else ...
you are giving peaceful pagans/wiccans a bad name as this goes against everything they stand for
or at least know what you are calling yourself and act accordingly

Answer 8

Invite your Mormon teacher to my source site, below.

Latter Day Saint (Mormon) Prophecies
Fulfilled by the Baha'i Faith by Joel Smith
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"Search these commandments, for they are true and faithful,
and the prophecies and promises which are in them shall all be fulfilled."
-Joseph Smith, Doctrine and Covenants, Section 1:37 --dated November 1, 1831

The Mormon Church, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, has its origins in the visions of Joseph Smith... "a religious teacher sensitive to the spiritual currents flowing in the early 19th century." Beginning in 1820, Joseph Smith claimed to have experienced a series of heavenly visions in which he was informed that all existing churches were in error, that the true Gospel had been lost and that he was being given the task of preparing people to recognize the immanent coming of the "Son of Man"... the return of Christ.

Joseph Smith's visions and prophecies are recorded in a book titled "The Doctrine and Covenants." This book contains prophecies which explicitly foretell the coming of two Messianic figures who were to appear in rapid succession--- one right after the other. The first of these two Messianic figures is called the "one mighty and strong" and is considered to be a forerunner like John the Baptist. The second of the two Messianic figures is called the "Son of Man".

For the sake of brevity in this presentation I would like to focus on only two of Joseph Smith's prophecies from "The Doctrine and Covenants". The first is found in Section 85, the second is from Section 130.

"And it shall come to pass that I, the Lord God, will send one mighty and strong, holding the scepter of power in his hand, clothed with light for a covering, whose mouth shall utter words, eternal words; while his bowels shall be a fountain of truth, to set in order the house of God...
While that man, who was called of God and appointed, that putteth forth his hand to steady the ark of God, shall fall by the shaft of death, like as a tree that is smitten by the vivid shaft of lightning."-D&C, section 85:7-8
The second prophecy is from Section 130 of the Doctrine and Covenants. Here Joseph Smith prophesied:

"When the Savior shall appear we shall see him as he is. We shall see that he is a man like ourselves... And a white stone is given to each of those who come into the celestial kingdom, thereon is a new name written, which no man knoweth save he that receiveth it. The new name is the key word. I prophesy, in the name of the Lord God, that the commencement of the difficulties which will cause much bloodshed previous to the coming of the Son of Man will be in South Carolina. It may probably arise through the slave question. This a voice declared to me, while I was praying earnestly on the subject, December 25th, 1832. I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man when I heard a voice repeat the following: Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter... The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit..."-D&C 130
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Let's take a look at these prophecies point by point:
SUMMARY OF PROMISES:

Section 85 contains two significant prophecies:
1- THE DEATH OF JOSEPH SMITH

The "man, who was called of God and appointed, that putteth forth his hand to steady the ark of God" was Joseph Smith. As prophesied in this passage, Joseph Smith actually did "fall by the shaft of death" "as a tree that is smitten by the vivid shaft of lightning..."
Joseph Smith was shot and killed on June 27, 1844.

2- FORERUNNER TO APPEAR IN 1844

The second half of this prophecy infers that when Joseph Smith is shot, the "one mighty and strong" will appear. Once again, Joseph Smith was shot in 1844. The prophecies of Joseph Smith foretell the coming of an Elijah figure.... a forerunner like John the Baptist. In other words, this prophecy predicts that a forerunner will appear in the year 1844.
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Section 130 contains several significant prophecies:

1- THE CIVIL WAR

"I prophesy, in the name of the Lord God, that the commencement of the difficulties which will cause much bloodshed previous to the coming of the Son of Man will be in South Carolina. It may probably arise through the slave question."
On December 25th, 1832, Joseph Smith first prophesied that the American civil war, which was fought over the "slave question", will begin in "South Carolina."
The civil war began in South Carolina in the year 1860. The "slave question" was crystallized in 1863 when President Abraham Lincoln signed the 'Emancipation Proclamation' freeing the slaves. Notice that Joseph Smith foretold these events over thirty years before they happened. And this is not even the most important part of this prophecy. Joseph Smith was just setting the stage for what could be one of the most significant events in human history.
Joseph Smith predicted that the "coming of the Son of Man" would become a reality shortly after the beginning of the civil war.

1A-THE SAVIOR WILL BE "A MAN LIKE OURSELVES"

"When the Savior shall appear we shall see him as he is. We shall see that he is a man like ourselves..."
The Savior... the Son of Man will have "a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's". This prophecy is self evident. The Son of Man will appear in exactly the same way that all of the other Prophets or "Manifestations of God" have appeared throughout history. He will not appear as some unidentifiable, intangible spirit.

1B- RED ROBE PROPHECY

Only three sections later Joseph Smith also prophesies: "And the Lord, even the Savior, shall stand in the midst of his people, and shall reign over all flesh... And it shall be said: Who is this that cometh down from God in heaven with dyed garments... And the Lord will be red in his apparel, and his garments like him that treadeth in the wine-vat. And so great shall be the glory of his presence that the sun shall hide his face in shame..." -D&C 133

"We shall see that he is a man like ourselves"... the "Son of Man" will have "a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's..." The Son of Man will appear in exactly the same way that all of the other Prophets or "Manifestations of God" have appeared throughout history. He will not appear as some unidentifiable, intangible spirit... "the Savior, shall stand in the midst of his people". These passages even identify the color of his clothes when he appears: "the Lord will be red in his apparel". They even give us a clue as to what his "new name" might be: "so great shall be the glory of his presence..."

1B- THE COMING OF THE CELESTIAL KINGDOM... THE NEW NAME PROPHECY

Those who choose to come "into the celestial kingdom" will be given a "white stone" "thereon is a new name written". Evidently, not everyone will choose to come into the "celestial kingdom." Either that, or perhaps what this passage is saying is that not everyone will recognize the coming of the Son of Man with a "new name" and thereby, because of their lack of understanding, will deprive themselves of the opportunity to enter the Son of Man's "celestial kingdom". Those who do enter the "celestial kingdom"... shall be given a "new name."

Joseph Smith's "new name" prophecy is reminiscent of similar statements made in Isaiah and in the Book of Revelation. In the second chapter of the Book of Revelation, Jesus repeats the "white stone with a new name prophecy." Jesus promised:
"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it."-Revelation 2:17

And in the next chapter Jesus again promises:

"Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out; and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name." -Revelation 3:12

Towards the end of his book Isaiah repeats this promise:

"thou shalt be called by a new name which the mouth of the Lord shall name."-Isaiah 62
And then Isaiah warned:

"ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord God shall slay thee and call his servants by another name."-Isaiah 65

Those who choose to come into the "celestial kingdom" shall be given a "new name."
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2- Joseph Smith wrote that he: "was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man when I heard a voice repeat the following:

" Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man..."
Joseph Smith was born in Sharon, Vermont, on December 23, 1805. He would have been 85 years old in 1890. If he had not been killed, Joseph Smith would have met the Son of Man in the year 1890. Could it be that the "Son of Man" was actually already alive on the planet at the very time that Joseph Smith was giving these prophecies? Consider these statements from Joseph Smith:

"behold, verily, verily, I say unto you that mine eyes are upon you. I am in your midst and ye cannot see me; But the day soon cometh that ye shall see me, and know that I am; for the veil of darkness shall soon be rent... Wherefore, gird up your loins and be prepared..." -D&C 38
"I am in your midst... And the day cometh that you shall hear my voice and see me, and know that I am. Watch, therefore, that ye may be ready." -D&C 50:44

"For verily I say unto you that I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the light and the life of the world--a light that shineth in darkness and the darkness comprehendeth it not. I came unto mine own, and mine own received me not... And when the times of the Gentiles is come in, as light shall break forth among them that sit in darkness, and it shall be the fullness of my gospel; But they receive it not; for they perceive not the light, and they turn their hearts from me because of the precepts of men." -D&C 45
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According to Joseph Smith's prophecies, the forerunner... "the one mighty and strong" should have appeared in 1844. The "Son of Man"... "the Savior" should have appeared shortly after the beginning of the civil war (1860). Joseph Smith advises his followers to be awake and searching. He warns that the coming of the "Son of Man" would be like "a light that shineth in darkness and the darkness comprehendeth it not". He hints that the Savior is: "in your midst and ye cannot see me"... "they receive [Him] not; for they perceive not the light, and they turn their hearts from me because of the precepts of men." And then, even more explicitly, Joseph Smith is promised that if lives until the year 1890 he will meet the "Son of Man".
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FULFILLMENT:

1- Joseph Smith's "one mighty and strong" prophecy was amazingly accurate. The Elijah figure DID arise in the east in the same year that Joseph Smith was shot. In 1844 the "ONE MIGHTY AND STRONG" arose in the east. He assumed the title of the Bab... a name which when translated into English means the "GATE". The Bab stated that he was the forerunner of the great "Son of Man"... whom, he said, was soon to appear.

The Bab wrote:

"I am one of the sustaining Pillars of the Primal Word of God. Whosoever hath recognized Me... hath attained all that is good and seemly..."
"Well is it with him who fixeth his gaze upon the Order of Baha'u'llah (the Son of Man), and rendereth thanks unto his Lord. For he will assuredly be made manifest. God hath indeed irrevocably ordained it..."- the Bab- Tablet to the Shah, GPB p.25

Joseph Smith foretold the coming of the Bab... the Forerunner of the Baha'i Faith with amazing accuracy. He also foretold the time of the coming of Baha'u'llah, the Baha'i Founder, with equal precision.

Joseph Smith promised: "I prophesy, in the name of the Lord God, that the commencement of the difficulties which will cause much bloodshed previous to the coming of the Son of Man will be in South Carolina. It may probably arise through the slave question."
The American Civil War began in South Carolina in 1860 but it was not until 1863 that Abraham Lincoln signed the 'Emancipation Proclamation' freeing the slaves and crystallizing the "slave question". It was also in 1863 that The "Son of Man" actually did appear.
It was on April 21, 1863 that Baha'u'llah, the Prophet founder of the Baha'i Faith, first publicly announced to the world that he was the Promised One whose coming had been foretold in the prophecies of the world's great religions. Thus Baha'u'llah announced His mission to the world at the exact time foretold by Joseph Smith.

Baha'u'llah wrote:

"The time fore-ordained unto the people and kindreds of the earth is now come. The promises of God as recorded in the holy Scriptures, have all been fulfilled..."
"The Revelation which, from time immemorial hath been acclaimed as the Purpose and Promise of all the prophets of God, and the most cherished Desire of His Messengers, hath now, by virtue of the pervasive Will of the Almighty and at His irresistible bidding, been revealed unto men. The advent of such a Revelation hath been heralded in all the sacred Scriptures. Behold how, notwithstanding such an announcement, mankind hath strayed from its path and shut out itself from its glory..." -Baha'u'llah, Baha'i World Faith, p.9

Baha'u'llah's forerunner appeared at the exact time foretold by Joseph Smith. Baha'u'llah himself also appeared at the exact time foretold by Joseph Smith. Baha'u'llah did come bearing a "new name". The name Baha'u'llah when translated into English is the Glory of God. Baha'u'llah did appear wearing a red robe. Baha'u'llah did bring the "celestial kingdom" as foretold by Joseph Smith. Yet, most of the world remained heedless of his appearance.

Joseph Smith warned that recognition of the coming of the Son of Man might not be as easy as many people thought. He said that the Savior is: "in your midst and ye cannot see [him]". Baha'u'llah, the Promised One... the Savior, the Son of Man appeared at the exact time foretold by Joseph Smith. Joseph Smith advised his followers to be awake and searching. He said that the coming of the "Son of Man" would be like "a light that shineth in darkness and the darkness comprehendeth it not". Baha'u'llah commented upon the people's tragic lack of comprehension. He wrote: "notwithstanding such an announcement, mankind hath strayed from its path and shut out itself from its glory..." Tragically, today, more than 130 years later, Joseph Smith's followers still "perceive not the light, and they turn their hearts from [Him] because of the precepts of men."

The other half of the prophecy from Section 130 of the Doctrine and Covenants promised that Joseph Smith would "see the face of the Son of Man" if he lived to be 85 years old. In a remarkable passage, Baha'u'llah seems to answer this promise. He wrote:

"Verily I say, this is the day in which mankind can behold the Face and hear the Voice of the Promised One. The call of God hath been raised, and the light of His countenance hath been lifted up upon men. It behooveth every man to blot out the trace of every idle word from the tablet of his heart, and to gaze, with an open and unbiased mind, on the signs of His Revelation, the proofs of His Mission, and the tokens of His Glory." --- Baha'u'llah
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Joseph Smith was promised that he would "see the face of the Son of Man" if he lived to be 85 years old. Joseph Smith would have been 85 years old in the year 1890. It was in the year 1890 that the first people from from Europe and America journeyed all the way to Israel to meet Baha'u'llah. Of these western pilgrims only the distinguished orientalist Professor Edward G. Browne of the University of Cambridge, England actually met him. Dr Browne "visited Baha'u'llah at Bahji in the year 1890, and recorded his impressions as follows: --

"The face of him on whom I gazed I can never forget, though I cannot describe it. Those piercing eyes seemed to read one's very soul; power and authority sat on that ample brow; while the deep lines on the forehead and face implied an age which the jet-black hair and beard flowing down in indistinguishable luxuriance almost to the waist seemed to belie.
No need to ask in whose presence I stood, as I bowed myself before one who is the object of a devotion and love which kings might envy and emperors sigh for in vain!
A mild dignified voice bade me be seated, and then continued: -- "Praise be to God that thou has attained!... Thou has come to see a prisoner and an exile. ... We desire but the good of the world and happiness of the nations; yet they deem us a stirrer up of strife and sedition worthy of bondage and banishment. ... That all nations should become one in faith and all men as brothers; that the bonds of affection should cease, and differences of race be annulled -- what harm is there in this? ... Yet so it shall be; these fruitless strifes, these ruinous wars shall pass away, and the `Most Great Peace' shall come. ... Do not you in Europe need this also? Is not this that which Christ foretold? ... Yet do we see your kings and rulers lavishing their treasures more freely on means for the destruction of the human race than on that which would conduce to the happiness of mankind. ... These strifes and this bloodshed and discord must cease, and all men be as one kindred and one family. ... Let not a man glory in this, that he loves his country; let him rather glory in this, that he loves his kind. ..."
-Baha'u'llah and the New Era, J. Esselmont, p.39-40
If Joseph Smith had lived to be 85 years old, would he have been on that steamship that travelled to Israel in 1890? Would he have been alongside Professor Browne as he met Baha'u'llah? Would Joseph Smith have seen "the face of the Son of Man" when he was 85 years old? Unfortunately, we will never know for certain.
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The question that has been raised in this brief presentation is... "are the Bab and Baha'u'llah truly the ones whose coming were foretold in the Mormon prophecies?" As illustrated many places elsewhere in this homepage, the Bab and Baha'u'llah literally do fulfill dozens of prophecies from the scriptures of each of the world's great religions. Baha'u'llah's teachings have already inspired the birth and development of a unified global community of believers.
What do you suppose are the chances that so many explicit prophecies from the diverse religions of the world could foretell the exact same things, in almost the exact same words as the Mormon prophecies and yet still be just a coincidence? How probable do you think it is that the Bab and Baha'u'llah could literally fulfill each and every one of these prophecies... and yet still be false? It is not very likely.
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The prophecies of Joseph Smith foretold the coming of both the "Son of Man" and of His "celestial kingdom." Is Baha'u'llah truly the "Son of Man" whose appearance was foretold by Joseph Smith? Is the name Baha'u'llah... the "new name" foretold by Joseph Smith? Is Baha'u'llah's kingdom truly the "celestial kingdom" foretold by Joseph Smith? These are questions of extreme importance.

Those who seek the truth in this matter may want to consider the following statements from Baha'u'llah:

"We, of a certainty, have had no purpose in this earthly realm save to make God manifest and to reveal His sovereignty; sufficient unto Me is God for a witness. We, of a certainty, have had no intent in the celestial Kingdom but to exalt His Cause and glorify His praise; sufficient unto Me is God for a protector. We, of a certainty, have had no desire in the Dominion on high except to extol God and what hath been sent down by Him..."

-Baha'u'llah: The Kitab-i-Aqdas, page 82

Great is the Cause, and great the Announcement! Patiently and calmly ponder thou upon the resplendent signs and the sublime words, and all that hath been revealed in these days, that haply thou mayest fathom the mysteries that are hid in the Books, and mayest strive to guide His servants. Hearken with thine inner ear unto the Voice of Jeremiah, Who saith: "Oh, for great is that Day, and it hath no equal." Wert thou to observe with the eye of fairness, thou wouldst perceive the greatness of the Day. Incline thine ear unto the Voice of this All-Knowing Counsellor, and suffer not thyself to be deprived of the mercy that hath surpassed all created things, visible and invisible..."
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NOTE: For Latter Day Saints who would like to hear more of this story you may want to read the book "So Great A Cause!" by Kenneth Stephens, a former Mormon and Institute Director. This book is currently out of print but your local librarian should be