Why then does the bible say?

Question

ISAIAH 43:10,11 — Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the Lord; and BESIDE ME THERE IS NO .
And:
ISAIAH 45:21 — Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time: who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; THERE IS NONE BESIDE ME
If the above verses are to be understood there is no saviour other than God (Allah). Not, Jesus. Yes, Jesus said: "I Am the way---the truth and the light. No man cometh unto the father but by Me." But that's because he was the MESSENGER of God (Allah) & taught people to woship God (Allah), therefore if you didn't follow his (i.e. Jesus's (PBUH) teaching, you weren't following God (Allah).

I didn't ask for opinions, I asked WHY are the above verses, in black & white overlooked & ignored by people claiming Jesus (PBUH) is the son of God (Allah)?
What do they MEAN then?

Plush - the Aramaic word ELAH is used to translate the Hebrew word for "God". Furthermore, Arab Christians call God "Allah". So do a little research of your OWN religion before you make sweeping comments

Answer 1

God is our only savior and redeemer.!!

Answer 2

I am sorry. You must read it -- Other than God (Jehovah). This Jesus of the New Testament, if God will give you grace to see it, embodied the Jehovah of the Old Testament.***

***That is to say, God made flesh and dwelling among us. It was because the eternal God was in that body called Jesus that He was able to overcome death.

Isaiah 45:21 ...a just God and a Savior, there is none beside me.
---and thus He came to earth in order to be both a just God and a Savior.

Isaiah 45:23...I have sworn by Myself, the word is gone out of My mouth in righteousness and shall not return, That to Me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.***

*** -- The voice that spoke the above words to Isaiah is the same voice that spoke in Matthew 11:28 saying "...Come to Me, all you that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.....For My yoke is easy, and My burden is light."

Having atoned at the Cross for sin in the flesh, as a perfect sacrifice, He once again took the form of the I AM that created the universe and appeared to father Abraham.

Having restored the possibility of fellowship with man, He has for the past 2,000 years been dividing himself, by faith, among those who believe the good news; just as He divided the bread and fish to hearers long ago.

Finally, not three persons but One. -- God as our eternal Father, God as our eternal Savior, and God as our eternal Comforter. God above, God with, God within, as it was in the beginning.
It is God in three ages and three works not three persons.

Answer 3

When Jesus walked this earth it was as a man.

Read Hebrews chapter 2.
It clearly states that Jesus was made a little lower than the angels. This refers to his spiritual state. He was a human by every measure the same as we. He had a very close relationship with God which is what made it possible for him to carry out his mission.

Answer 4

The New Testament saints considered Jesus as more than a messenger of God.

Jesus is referred to as the "image of God", the "exact representation of [God's] being", the "bread from heaven" and the "word made flesh". Jesus himself told his followers that when they had seen him, they had seen the Father, and that he and his Father were one (i.e. in mind and purpose). More than a messenger: Jesus was the message (the "word of God" that was with God and is also identified with God). No other has been able to pronounce the forgiveness of God to humankind.

Jesus was a great Messenger and Prophet, but he was also the Lamb of God... Messiah... Saviour... Emmanuel (God with us)... Word made flesh. The mind and Spirit of God dwelt richly in him.

The Christian belief is that Jesus represents God to us, and represents us to God (he is our mediator, chosen by God before all time).

Edit: Jesus, as the chosen and divine representative of God the Father, leads us towards the worship of one true God, his "Father" (not necessarily in a literal sense, btw). Christians worship God the Father (beside whom there is no other), through Jesus Christ the Lord, in the power of the Holy Spirit.

The word of God is: "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased".

Hope this helps,

Peace and blessings

Answer 5

I thesolonians 1:10, genesis 45:8, but john 14:6 -17:11 really explains it the father and jesus are one ! nobody comes to the father but through me

Answer 6

There is only one God, in three parts. God the Father, God the Son (Jesus) and God the Holy Spirit.

We were created in his image, in three parts, mind, body and soul. We are not our mind, we are not our body and we are not our soul. We are all three together, without any one part we are not who we are.

Jesus is God, God came to earth as a servant and gave us a chance to fellowship with God the Father through the righteousness of Jesus the Son. A free gift from God, a precious gift that we only have to ask for and we receive.

I do not care to argue with anyone or to force anyone to believe this, nobody has to believe the truth, nobody is forced to accept the free gift, but it is still there.

God Bless.

Answer 7

You don't know any thing about the Bible with
with using just some of the versess you can not proof any thing
Remember that in old testament the prophets of God had just a shadow of God and the God's plan for saving human being
in new testament for several times Jesus said that he is God
like when he answerd this question (rabbi show us the Father)
he answerd (I and father are ONE)

Answer 8

i thought about Christ been the savior, and i have come to understand that, not Christ as a person, was the way but his teachings and approach to life/ He saying "i am the way the truth and the life no one comet to the father except through me " is a way of saying that you cannot be pleasing or see the father except you follow the his teaching and understand that there is no other way to God except righteousness

Answer 9

Jesus is God's (El Shaddai's) son, not Allah's son. Jesus never mentioned Allah. He said that He came on His Father's business.
Jesus, God (El Shaddai), and the Holy Spirit are One God - but in three persons. It's called the Trinity.
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."
It was God - the God of the Israelites, not Allah - who saved us through His Son.
I hope this has helped.

Answer 10

you do know that this is from the old testament right? and that jesus wasn't born until the new testament?
why is it so hard for people to understand that an entity outside time and space is not confined to the physical laws of this universe. god declared himself so, god the father, speaking his word, god the son, and working through his spirit, god the holy spirit.
i believe thats what you were contesting, but the verse pertains to god telling hebrews to put nothing else before him.

Answer 11

No, God would never had written a book in that manner, it's in a division manner: as in a person speaking out to his followers, even a warlord can say things with meaning to his followers, even in the Muslim book it also has divisions and these were put in place with meaning, to divide, the god we all want to believe would never had done this, but people would have why CHOICE, "choose you faith mate and may you stand with us or against us", see it's all man made and written with mans proposes