How does Islam relate to women?

Question

The holy Quran has the following to say:

Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them (4:34).

Women's testimony is equal to half that of a man:
Get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her (2:282).

Polygyny, and sex with slave and captive women:
"If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, (4:3).

Many in the newly formed group, the Women's Islamic Initiative in Spirituality and Equality, or WISE, said strict sharia law was not divine because it was created by men and should be changed to incorporate women's rights.

RRSS, if you think that my translation is inaccurate, please translate it for us.

The Koran is clear and unmistakable. Exactly mirroring all legal systems that administer increasingly harsher penalties for continued wrongdoing, the Koran says the Husband should first verbally admonish her, next ground her to the bedroom like a child, and finally when all else fails, to beat her.

1. Give her a piece of your mind by scolding and rebuking her.
2. Ignore her, ground her to her room, starving her of sex, affection and attention. (This is recognized to day as a form of passive wife abuse)
3. Physically beat her.

Six translations of Qur'an 4:34:

1. "Men are superior to women on account of the qualities with which God has gifted the one above the other, and on account of the outlay they make from their substance for them. Virtuous women are obedient, careful, during the husband's absence, because God has of them been careful. But chide those for whose refractoriness you have cause to fear; remove them into beds apart, and scourge them: but if they are obedien

Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme." (Dawood's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

"Men are in charge of women, because Allah has made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah has guarded. As for those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great." (Pickthall's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

"Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All high, All great." (Arberry's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. (Shakir's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whom part you fear disloyalty and ill conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance) for Allah is Most High, Great (above you all). (Ali's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

Answer 1

In a nutshell: Look at the young woman in Saudi Arabia who was sentenced recently to a punishment of 90 lashes for the "crime" of being a victim of gang-rape

Answer 2

(4:34) What would you feel if your wife in not being faithful? Do you think a slap on the face is enough? If a woman think Islam is harsh, she should not cheat. The scourging is not for little mishaps, its for the big ones committed by the wife.
(2.82) Women tend to loose grip of their memory as they age. Imagine if you had none but an 85 yrs old woman to act as a witness, she must have another to support her. It does not mean that 2 women equal 1 man. Think of it scientifically.
(4:3) U know very well most man cannot be satisfied with only one. How about if she is barren or has an accident that leaves her crippled? He marries another better than divorce her and leave her without emotional/financial supporter. Would U prefer adultery just because a man wants another? The captives are the slaves. Islam condemns slavery, so men are advised to set the salves free and marry them. This is why she is called 'right hand possession'.
Bottom line, do not fret my friend. U took out, from the Quran, whatever did not suit your taste . I will take that in good intention. We are very happy and do not feel oppressed by our religion. The oppressors (if there is) are fathers or husbands of narrow uneducated minds.

Answer 3

Women in Islam have it a lot better then women in Christianity!

1. The Bible Convicts Women as the original
Sinners, (ie. Eve picking from the forbidden
tree){Genesis 2:4-3:24}. The Koran Clarifies it
was Adam Not Eve {Qur'an 7:19-25}

2. The Bible says "The Birth of a Daughter is a
loss" {Ecclesiasticus 22:3}. The Qur'an says both
are an Equal Blessing { Qur'an 42:49}

3. The Bible Forbids Women from Speaking in
church {I Corinthians 14:34-35}. The Qur'an says
Women Can argue with the Prophet {58:1}

4. In the Bible, divorced Women are Labeled as
an Adulteress, while men are not {Matthew 5:31-32}. The
Koran does Not have Biblical double standards
{ Qur'an 30:21}

5. In The Bible, Widows and Sisters do Not
Inherit Any Property or Wealth, Only men
do{Numbers 27:1-11}The Koran Abolished this
male greediness { Qur'an 4:22} and God Protects
All.


6. The Bible Allows Multiple Wives{I Kings 11:3}
In The Koran, God limits the number to 4 only
under certain situations (with the Wife's
permission)and Prefers you Marry Only One
Wife{ Qur'an 4:3} The Koran gives the Woman
the Right to Choose who to Marry.


7. "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not
pledged to be married and rapes her and they are
discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty
shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he
has violated her. He can never divorce her as long
as he lives" {Deuteronomy 22:28-30}


One must ask a simple question here, who is
really punished, the man who raped the woman or
the woman who was raped? According to the
Bible, you have to spend the Rest of Your Life
with the man who Raped You.


The Prophet Muhammad Says {Volume 9, Book
86, Number 101} Narrated by Aisha:" It is
essential to have the consent of a virgin (for the
marriage)".


Would the Christian men Reading this prefer the
Women they know to Be Christian or Muslim?


8. The Bible also asks Women to wear veils as in
Islam {I Corinthians 11:3-10}, this lowers the
chance of rape, (God Forbid), see statistic link
below.


9. Women were given rights to Vote less than a
100 years ago in the (US), while the Quran (42:38) gave
Women Voting rights almost 1,500 years ago.

10. Islam has unconfined Women and has given them
the human right to reach for the sky. There have been
Muslim Women Presidents through out the centuries,
but to this date, the oppressive mentality of the
men in the Western U.S.A. has stopped any Women from becoming
Presidents in predominately Christian countries,
while the Muslim countries have voted for and
elected Female Presidents.


Here is a list of previous Female Muslim leaders:


Khadija bint Khuwaylid
Aishah bint Abu Bakr
Fatimah bint Muhammad
Barakah
Ramlah bint Abu Sufyan
Rumaysa bint Milhan
Umm Salamah
Asma bint Abu Bakr
Zaynab al-Ghazali
Maryum Jameelah

Answer 4

To answer you & to reply on first two answers :
1- For you, This what GOD says & no question of what he say because he knows more than us.
2- For marriage of more than one, it ia a long story but I try to abreviate, First, you don't marry a women against her will, so if she agre to be a second wife or the first wife didn't refuse a second one( And she can do) , So where is the problem ? Also,
In that days women weren't learned enough & can't find easy work to get mony to live without a husband & due to continuous wars that days & due diseases & lowering mens ages , women could be lucky to find a man spend on her & her orphant if there were ? Also, some men were good enough to help widows & orphant being husbands & fathers to them, Also, if a woman became so ill or ugly due to an accident or a disease ,she will be happy or luky if her husband married with her another women instead of divorcing her, Lastly, it is better for man & community to marry another woman if he feels need instead of playing with hores & giving birth to illegal offsprings, so making problems in the community & to children . Even Koran say you can marry till four if you can make justice between them & you will not , this mean it is very difficult to take this decision but not prohibited .
3- To reply the other two answers, first one no need to answer him & for the second , this circumcision is not of islamic origin, what you had seen in 60 minutes is a tradition since Pheronic old time, Islam didn't speak about it in Quran & Mohamed may spoke about it , saying it could be done in odd cases only .
Lastly, what do you want of your question ? I can ask many questions about your traditions which you see it Normal & I see it idiocy .

Answer 5

I think not fair to limit the rights of the woman in Islam to few phrases, the rights are numerous and has lengthy discussion.
I'll try to high light some of these you mentioned.
as you know the emotions of the females are more generous than males and it is obvious among the ladies of your family, and the men usually more aggressive (in contrast to ladies)than ladies and all has to do with there genes and hormonal system, so, this is why they are much better in carring for kids and softtening the wild behaviour of male kids.
As it has been shown in genitics than the more Ygenes ( malness) you have the more aggressive and criminal behaviors you commit thats in general compared to the X genes where you have mental subnormality. So, it is a matter of ballance has been made, also, if you come to anatomy of brain you will find the frontal part of brain which deals with judgement is larger in men than women. And it has been shown in history as well that men when they lead they are wiser and can control things better, see a living example the most democratic countries in western world how many women compared to men has taken presidency??

So, it is not a matter of whom better but every one has been created for a ceartin duties where the other has to work hard to do it .

Do you know in Islam the women are rewarded much better than men ??

Do you know in Holly Quran ALLAH the only time mentioned very clearly to lessen for a complaint of a women and sent a whole Sura and each verse the name of ALLAH has been mentioned 22 times witheach verse of support of women rights?

Do you know that the Prophet in his last days has asked men to keep an eye on prayer and take care of women " prayer is the only Islamic shrime which was realid to the prophet in the heaven"

Do you know the mother has 3X rights compared to the father?
Do you know a women who dies at time of delivery has the same grade in heaven like those men killed in battel??
Do you know the prophet Mohammad PB UH said get have of your religious roles and law from a lady considered the mother of all muslims ( Ayisha)??

So, I think probably you cought these verses but you didn't have the explanation and details of the meaning, even for us as Muslims we shouldn't read Quran and just derive the what's right and wrong we have to go back to scientist of different islamic specialities and ask, because Islam is a way of life and not only in the mosque. So, understanding the background of the subject and gathering the different informations of the subject then make the decission.
At the end thanks for asking this Q.

Answer 6

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Answer 7

interior the Hadith, in Ishaq 969 instructions that a married female be "put in a separate room and overwhelmed gently" if she "act in a sexual way in the direction of others." in accordance to the Hadith, that's often for an offense as petty as basically being on my own with a guy to whom she isn't appropriate. on the area of what you had to be attentive to. confident regrettably Islam enables a guy to hit his spouse. human beings might say yet Muslims are non violent, my husband does no longer do this. yet it is not the element, Islam enables it so one undesirable day a Muslim guy can hit his very own spouse, a grown female or maybe kill her if no longer careful. regrettably in accordance to Islamic regulation, a husband might strike his spouse for any between here 4 reasons: - She does no longer attempt to make herself beautiful for him (ie. "enable's herself circulate") - She refuses to fulfill his sexual demands - She leaves the domicile without his permission or a "valid reason" - She neglects her non secular responsibilities evidence: Qur'an 4:34 ''...Allah has made a number of them to excel others and because they spend out of their sources; the sturdy women are consequently obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and as to those on whose area you concern desertion, admonish them, and circulate away them on my own interior the sleeping-places and beat them; then in the event that they obey you, do no longer seek for a manner against them; easily Allah is severe, large." A heavy or mild beating is misguided finished provide up. it is even worse while a faith supplies permission for a guy to triumph over a grown female while he pleases.

Answer 8

Which translation of the Quran are you using for these quotes? It's inaccurate. The Quran pays respect to women...even has a separate sura on the Virgin Mary and discusses her influence more than the Bible does. Also, Mohammed's first wife was much older than he and asked him to marry her.

Answer 9

What does this have to do with the Islamic practice of cutting off young girls clitoris when they reach the age of 12 ??

(with no anesthesia and they used the same crusty knife)
They play music outside the building so no one can hear the screams of the little girls....
I saw it on 60 minutes. Do Muslims still do this??

Answer 10

Its a sad thing about Islam. Women in islam are punished more than they are rewarded! They can't raise their voice because otherwise their life will be at stake.