Correct me if I am wrong, but would not a true atheist not even care about God any more that they would care about the urban legends like ghost hitch-hikers?
Deists HAVE TO ABIDE THAT EVOLUTION IS TAUGHT IN SCHOOL, but the thought of God being taught (when it is our founding documents and our country was based on CHRISTIANITY), is so terrible.
Double standard?
2006-11-21
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1. the treaty of tripoli is not a founding legal document of th US.
2. Read the constitution people. it recognizes the CHRISTIAN GOD not the islamic god or karma.
3. the legal foundation of the US is the Constitution. an the following years were governed by the men who had a hand in writing, and ratifying it. They SURELY knew what it was all about, much more than AN living college prof. (liberal OR conservative)
These men also built STATE constitutions that REQUIRED that CHRISTIANITY be the religion for governors and other public servants, although a particular denomination was never an issue or requirement!
I m VERY tired of the false intellectuals who know NOTHING or very little, claiming that these things, supported by mountains of documents from the founding fathers that ABSOLUTELY ESTABLISHES the CHRISTIAN underpinnings of the USA!
STOP LYING!!!!
2006-11-21
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update #1
You hit the nail on the head! I keep telling them, the prefix (a), means
indifferent! The people on here would better be described as ANTITHEIST!
ZEALOTS, FANATICS, or just as big a hypocrites as the ones they complain about!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
2006-11-21 01:52:27
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answered by THE NEXT LEVEL 5
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Okay, you're wrong. Very, very much wrong.
First of all, there's no such thing as a "true atheist", just as there's no such thing as a "True Scostman".
God being taught in a public school, where my tax money is going, is against the separation of church and state and violates the first amendment. Evolution is taught in school because it's REAL SCIENCE, whether it contradicts your precious bible or not.
Our founding documents and country were NOT based on Christianity. The Treaty of Tripoli, signed by our founding fathers, explicitly states that the United States "...was not, in any sense, founded upon the Christian religion." You don't believe me? Look it up.
Our country was the first to have a constitution that was written to be completely secular and completely godless, and we are the first country smart enough to have separation of church and state.
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Pot calling the kettle black. You're not only being a dishonest LIAR, but you're being incredibly childish. Whatever happened to "thou shalt not bear false witness"? Our country was not founded upon Christianity... the Constitution proves this. It does not recognize any Chrsitian God, Christianity, or Jesus. The Bill of Rights protects the rights of the MINORITY against tyranny of the government and opinion of the MAJORITY. Stop your whining, read the constitution, and get a goddamn clue.
2006-11-21 10:04:13
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answered by Anonymous
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Atheists don't care about god. We don't believe god exists, hence there is nothing to care about. We can care about religions though and the effects they have.
Your country being based on Christianity is incorrect. Please educate yourself better on your own country's history. The founding fathers clearly stated that the country is in no way based on Christianity. They were not Christians themselves and they dreamed about freedom of religion. Later in history other people added references to god in some documents, but the U.S. are and always have been a secular country.
Evolution is science and has a lot of evidence to back it up and science belongs in school. Religion doesn't. Religion should be a personal choice and no particular religion should be pushed on kids in schools. If teaching evolution in schools is such an issue I don't see why it's not possible to do it the way it was done in my school. We were taught about the evolution and told about creation too and it was explained to us that nobody knows for sure how the world came to be but that some people believe the evolution and some people believe that god created everything and that there are also some people who believe something else. That way nobody tried to push any belief on us and present it as the truth, we got to choose by ourselves what to believe. I think that's a fair way to do it.
2006-11-21 10:10:35
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answered by undir 7
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No. The standard is logic and evidence.
Evolution has this.
Deity does not.
And show me where the Declaration of Independance or the Constitution reference YHVH or Jesus? The DoI does reference the Creator, the deist name for the blind watchmaker, the deity who wound everything up then walked away, never revealing itself to its creation. The Constitution, on the other hand, never ONCE mentions creator OR god. Further, the treaty of tripoli specifically stipulates that the USA is not nor ever will be a Christian nation.
Yes. Most of the original settlers were Christians. Yes. Most of them were fleeing religious persecution. Yes, most of the founding fathers were Christians. The guys who wrote the documents which form the foundation of our laws were NOT christian however. They were deists.
2006-11-21 09:53:01
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answered by Anonymous
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I understand where you are coming from and I think you have a point, but I don't think your comparison is valid. There are plenty of religious people in this country, people who are very passionate about religion. Many of them cannot even understand that there are Americans who don't need religion in their lives. The divide here is huge. Imagine if you met someone who had the opinion that everything you held most important in the universe wa a complete lie. It would be hard not to have some harsh feelings towards this person. This is basically true for both sides of the issue. Another issue is that religion is such a part of everyday life. One is ocnfrotned by religious people or religion in the news nearly every day, yo udont hear that urban legend about ghosts every day, Again this is the kind of thing that breeds animosity.
I agree with you that animosity should not play a part here, but it is hard to avoid.
2006-11-21 09:57:14
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answered by abcdefghijk 4
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Our country was not based on Christianity. Check the Treaty of Tripoli if you want a document.
Atheists, and everyone else, have good reason to care about religion and theism, no matter how mythical WE see those concepts to be, since our lives are affected by those who DON'T see them as mythical.
Deists and theists are two different things, btw. Most of our founding fathers were deists, whereas Christians and members of other religions are theists. Deists are more often than not also evolutionists.
2006-11-21 10:00:06
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answered by Snark 7
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Science should be taught in science class. Judeo-Christian mythology is not science. Evolution is. There is ample evidence to show that evolution is at work in the universe. There is no evidence whatsoever that the universe was created in six days. That's an ancient creation myth.
And no matter how often and loudly you Christians shout that the U.S. is a Christian nation, it has never been and never will be. It's a nation founded upon the ideals of liberty, including freedom of religion. Most of the founding fathers were men of faith, but they also believed that one's faith is a private matter, a matter of conscience, and should remain so. The government has no right to tell anyone what they must believe or must not, and no religion has a right to obtrude on government and force it to tell others how to worship or not worship.
No double standard. Freedom of conscience is for everyone, not just Christians. And not all atheists are anti-religion. I don't care what you believe or don't believe, or how you worship--just so long as you don't try to legislate your beliefs and make us all abide by them. We're against anyone forcing their religion on others.
2006-11-21 09:54:01
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answered by Anonymous
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To answer your first question; I would say yes.
Second question; 1)separation of church and state 2)Other religions would complain 3)Evolution is based on scientific proof while intelligent design (no matter how much you believe it) is largely a theory of Christianity, no more provable, some might say rational, than the existence of the Easter Bunny.
-BTW I'm not an Atheist
2006-11-21 10:06:30
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answered by GreyGHost29 3
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Not built on Christianity. Founded by second sons only looking for gold. Read up on your history.
2006-11-21 10:09:22
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answered by Anonymous
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Christianity or general philosophy? I would argue philosophy. Just because it was based on a philosophy that allowed freedom of religion you claim it is Christian. No buddy.
2006-11-21 09:48:59
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answered by Anonymous
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If your talking about the US can you really say that your country was built on Christiany when Native Americans were there first with a completely different religion?
2006-11-21 09:50:26
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answered by Claire O 5
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