Proof please.
2006-11-20 12:01:12 · 17 answers · asked by Laurie 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
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2006-11-20 12:06:20 · update #1
We can pinpoint the time of the Messiah's birth. Revelation 12 tells of the birth of the Messiah when the constellation Virgo (the woman in the heavens) was clothed with the sun and had the moon at her feet. This tells us that Jesus was born when the sun and moon were in Virgo. In other words, at the time of the September New Moon, or shortly thereafter. This fits the autumn lambing season. Furthermore, it coincides with the season of the three Jewish feasts, Trumpets, Atonement and Tabernacles. Interestingly, the apostle John records in John 1:14 that the "Word became flesh and tabernacled amongst us." As the New Moon was on the 10th and Tabernacles on the 25th September in 3 BC, the birth of Christ would be somewhere between those dates.
2006-11-20 12:04:03 · answer #1 · answered by Justsyd 7 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Look in any encyclopaedia under Christmas. Bible scholars believe that Jesus was probably born sometime in the fall, perhaps in October. December 25 is the date of a Roman holiday called Saturnalia which was incooperated into the church to bring in pagans. Go to the library if you don't trust Wickpaedia! It will be in any reputable encyclopaedia.
2006-11-20 20:18:41 · answer #2 · answered by themom 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus was NOT born on December 25th. He was born on Rosh Hashanna (Feast of Trumpets). The Bible tells us that when Elisabeth became pregnant with John the Baptist, it was during the month of Tishri (the month that Elisabeth's husband served in the Temple "in the course of Abijah"). When she was six months pregnant with John, Mary became pregnant with Jesus. By a calulation of a normal 9 month pregnancy, Jesus would have been born on the Feast of Trumpets (which falls in August or September, depending on the Lunar year). The Roman Catholic religion changed the celebration of the birth of the sun god Mithras on December 25th to that of Jesus.
2006-11-20 20:06:46 · answer #3 · answered by hmghosthost 3 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Sorry, you're not going to get proof of anything that has to do with religion. Religion is only a belief, it demands - - and gets no proof.
Now to attempt to answer your question. My guess ( and it's only a guess ) would be that perhaps the old Roman records ( and they did keep records of everything, much still remains of them ) might have shown that the census taking actually occurred in September.
One thing is sure. The records do not show a census at the end of December.
2006-11-20 20:10:43 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
I believe that has something to do with the historical evidence for the time of taxation according to the decree of Caesar Augustus, which is what brought Joseph and Mary to Bethelehem. I do not have the source for that, but you could research the time of that decree, and you would have a pretty good idea of when Jesus would have been born.
2006-11-20 20:05:01 · answer #5 · answered by AsiaWired 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I heard it was spring, because that is when the did the tax collecting and that was the time the Bible says he was born.
also you want proof? Show me any Proof in th Bible that says Jesus was born in December. Not a single Christian or historical scholar says Jesus was born in December.
2006-11-20 20:05:08 · answer #6 · answered by Gamla Joe 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Not September, but rather it was probobly October....(our calendar)...The proof you look for is simple....in the Area around Bethlehem December is too cold and rainy for shepherds to be staying outside at night with their flocks. One scripture in Ezra (Ez 10:13) talks about that very time of the year and says "it is not possible to stand outside" because of the season. Another scripture in Jeremiah shows even inside they needed fires (braziers) (Jerimiah 36:22) during mid- December.
The Bible's account of the birth of Jesus clearly shows the shepherds were outside with their flocks at night. (Luke 2:8-12).
The Bible does not shed much light on the timing of Jesus' birth....it is not important.....he commanded us to commemorate his death not his birth. For now we won't even talk about the pagan origin of the december celebrations.
2006-11-20 20:17:04 · answer #7 · answered by fasteddie 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
the basis that it was a religious practice of his physical decendants that consumation took place during a festival late in January hence the children were more often then not born round september , L.Gardiners books about Christ's bloodline explain this quite well and back it up with proven historical evidence from numerous sources. i think from memory that Christs brother James was born during this correct period , however Jesus was concieved outside this period based on historical evidence .
2006-11-20 20:08:27 · answer #8 · answered by harro_06 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Nobody can possibly know. The december 25th date is obviously wrong because there cannot possibly be any sheep in an open field, it's way too cold. Besides, this date is just the pagan winter solstice celebration anyway.
2006-11-20 20:05:52 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
No, they believe he was born on May 9th. YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THERE IS NO PROOF. You don't have proof that Jesus was born on December 25th and no1 has proof that he wasn't. But if i had to believe what you or scholars said, i'd go with the smart ppl(no offense). Here is 'proof': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativity_of_Jesus#Dating
2006-11-20 20:04:49 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋