Can anybody prove that Jesus was not born December 25th?

Question

People always say the day of Jesus'birth was not December 25th.They base this on that it was Winter and shepards would not be out in the field at that time.But is it not possible that this night was special and they were out there on December 25 because God arranged it?Is it not also possible that the date of December 25th was known and that pagans ripped it off?We as Christians believe that Jesus was born December 25th.PROVE IT OTHERWISE.Blessings.

Patches You claim it was September?Your evidence for this date please.

Rangedog I said proof not plagiarism.

Alex I..Oh so they couldn't have seen that star weeks in advance?Get real.

Tirya..So an eternal Christ could not pre date pagans?lol your funny.

Answer 1

No

Answer 2

"It was not until A.D. 350, that December 25 was declared the official date for celebrating Christmas by Pope Julius I. When the fathers of the church decided to settle upon a date to celebrate the event, they wisely chose the day of the winter solstice, since it coincided with some rival religions' celebrations and the rebirth of the sun."

Paganism also predates Christianity and paganistic holidays had already been established throughout the year. Also due to these changes with the julian calendar over the last 2 thousand years the East Orthodox or Middle Eastern Orthodox churches celebrate Christmas on Jan 7 and not Dec 25.

There is no proof to say he wasnt born on Jan 7 or Dec 25, but why should we prove it? Why do u feel the need to seek acceptance from non christians for a faith you believe so much in? Yes there are many people out there that try to discredit it, but who cares about the arguments.

If you love your God and Jesus so much, then who cares what we think or what we can prove? If someone could show you proof would u lose your belief? If proof wouldnt sway you from believing then why ask the question to begin with? Faith is a matter of believing in something. Faith is not about trying to put proof or labels on it.

If YOU have faith then why are u asking us for the answers? Go ask your God, only he can tell you the truth.

Answer 3

We do not have complete records from the period in question and there were several different callendars in use at the time all of which used "fudge factors" making precise dating almost impossible.

There were censuses taken by Roman officials every 8 years or so. Sometimes the censuses themsleves took several years to complete. We have reasonably established a census MAY have occurred ~6 AD. The previous one would have been ~3BC (there was no year 0). New evidence seems to indicate that Herod the Great may have died in 1 BC instead of 4 BC as most scholars had previously thought. So all of the dates do seem to add up.

The fact is that the entire story is very murky and we really cannot verify the story independently of Scripture. But by the same token the anti-Christians cannot DISPROVE it either.

Given the fact that the Gospel of St. Luke is inspired by the Holy Spirit and therefore infallible and inerrant, I would be inclined to give it the benefit of the doubt in this case.

Art Sippo
http://www.envoymagazine.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1024
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Answer 4

Actually, there is much proof that the early Christian Church adopted the Roman holiday of Saturnalia (December 25) and celebrated it as Christmas, the day of Jesus' birth. The reason, they didn't think they could keep people from celebrating it anyway, so they "Christianized" it so at least people were celebrating something Christian rather than pagan.

And before you ask, no, I do not know what these documentation is, I assume it's various historical documents. I would recommend searching the Internet for that information or contacting a religion department at a university, such as the one at Missouri State University, a well-respected, world-reknown religious studies department located in Springfield, Missouri:
www.missouristate.edu

Answer 5

If God had, in fact, changed the weather conditions for that particular night or year or whatever, dont you think SOMEBODY would have realised this and written it down -- or perhaps even more likely it would have been recorded in the Bible? And if Jesus was to be born outside, why would it NEED to be in December? Its not like that date had any signifigance before his birth, now did it?
Also, there is no evidence that the first-century disciples of Jesus observed this holiday. The book of Sacred Origins of Profound Things states: "For two centuries after Christ's birth, no one knew, and few people cared, exactly when he was born." Even if they did know his exact date of death, they wouldnt have celebrated it. The World Book Encyclopedia says the early Christians "considered the celebration of anyone's birth to be a pagan custom." The only birthday observances mentioned in the Bible are those of two rulers who did not worship God (Genesis 40:20, Mark 6:21).
It was not until several hundred years after Jesus lived on earth that people began to commemorate his birth on December 25. The reason for choosing this date has been said to have been chosen to coincide with the pagan Roman festival of marking the birthday of the unconquered sun. We know the pagans didnt 'rip off Jesus' birth date' because they had been having their celebrations hundreds and hundreds of years before Jesus ever walked the earth, my friend.
Jesus' death, however was asked to be commemorated. Luke 22:19 states: "...This means my body, which is to be given in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me."

Answer 6

In my Bible I have a timeline that shows exactly when Jesus was born. Herod the Great was made Kind of Judea by the Romans in 37AD, and Jesus's mother Mary was born aprroximately born 12 years later. Approximately 5 years after that Herod began remodeling the Temple in Jerusalem. 14 to 15 years later Jesus was born in Bethlem which was a little town in Judea. Approximately 2 years later Herod the Great died which would have been two years after trying to kill all the infant boys who were 2 years of age and under. Which occured right after the three wise men had come from the east looking for the new born king, following the star that had appeared in the night sky.


I am a Christian and even though I celebrate it on the 25th of December, I don't believe that he was born on the 25th. So please don't include me in that statement of yours that all christians believe that Jesus was born on the 25th of December.

Answer 7

Yes it is possible. Not only because of what u just said, but also because some1 literally just picked December 25th. They had no evidence. It was just another holiday. GOD did NOT choose the day as December 25th. In fact, neither God OR Jesus told any1 to celebrate the Lord's birth. Both links below are short paragraphs on what scholars think about Jesus's birthdate

Answer 8

The calendar we use now did not exist until well after the death of Jesus. It is highly unlikely he was born on 25 Dec. However, his actual date of birth is irrelevant. Jesus is the saviour of the wolrd and his date of birth is as irrelevant as the Da Vinci Code.

Then there are those who believe he was crucified on a friday. It is however, likely that he was crucified on a thursday, Not friday as we are led to believe, as the friday was the passover and the saturday the sabbath Jewish law prohibited travel and work on these days and as such there would have been no one at the cross as the distance from the city walls to the cross would have been more than one was allowed to travel under the law. Furthermore the law prohibited work on these days so they would not have removed his body or even annoited it. It also fits in to the three days and the resurection on the sunday.

Answer 9

Jesus became into born in 4BC. in the time of summer season, in Israel, with the aid of fact the shepherds does not be out on a chilly wintry climate's eve. that's believed that it became into around the time of a definite competition, nonetheless that's only un-knowledgeable hypothesis. And as for the twenty 5th element, that's no longer the day we have fun. Yeah, i recognize it became into on a Pagan holiday. yet now that's a Christian holiday. And a commercial heaven. I have fun the beginning of Jesus Christ, no longer the twenty 5th of December.

Answer 10

lack of technology can prove this notion. the three kings and the shepards could not have hopped on a plane to get to bethlehem in a couple of hours. this hourney would have been taken on foot by shepards and on camel by the three wise men. it would have been days if not weeks after jesus was born for them to get to the site. i am a christian and never have i heard or been told that december 25 is the day of jesus's birth. we celebrate the birth of jesus on december 25 because this is the believed date that the wise men presented jesus with gifts.
look at matthew chapter 2

Answer 11

Jesus was not born on Christmas because it would have been too cold for shepards to be out in the fields. Most historians agree it was probably no later than october.They moved it to december in order to replace a pagan holiday and to make winter something to look forward to.