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Dosn't it give us a moral framework to live by that has broken down in today's secular society?

2006-11-20 04:21:32 · 44 answers · asked by bluenose 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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What the heck is wrong with secular society? You act as if human beings have turned into murderous, thieving mobs and that crime in our cities resembles that of Bagdad.

Consider that religion has not helped in the places it exists. Bagdad is HIGHLY Islamic. Germany was very Christian. The most secular societies in existence today are also, by & large, the most peaceful. In the US, the more religious the population of a state, the higher the divorce rate, out-of-wedlock pregnancy rate, and imprisonment rate.

Moral frameworks stem from rational approaches to community life. Religion teaches "might makes right" by insisting that if you don't follow God's law (set down in an entirely foreign culture), you'll be sent to hell by a God who is totally unanswerable to anyone.

2006-11-20 04:33:48 · answer #1 · answered by NHBaritone 7 · 3 2

It is easy in our society to take the negative and blow it up and ignore the positive. Watch the news any day of the week and what is reported the majority of the time is the bad that is happening. The positive is put on the back burner to the point that people view good as the exception rather than the rule. To that extent the media plays a large role promoting their personal agenda, then media is the blame for a lot. They are also the messengers for a lot of needed information so I am not totally bad mouthing them.

As for the fall from religious institutions, it is a sign of where society is going right now. The me and I generation of right now is more concerned about themselves. This started a few decades back and is just accelerating as we move into second and third generations. You see it in many areas including business, religion, family, community etc.

2006-11-20 04:31:12 · answer #2 · answered by chico2149 4 · 1 1

I have not learnt to hate organised religion, what I do hate is people trying to foist fairy tales, lies and fantasies on the world which is what all religions do, and until not so long ago I would have been burned at the stake for saying such a thing under the rule of the so called christian loving religion think about that. More people have been killed by religious lunatics than all other causes put together.

2006-11-20 05:01:40 · answer #3 · answered by Stephen P 4 · 0 1

I believe organized religion has lost it's moral framework, religion puts more focus on it's wealth and power over others than it's Godly obligations towards it's flock in today's society, and as long as you have those that support that concept more and more people will pull away from organized religion. I also believe that organized religion has lost it's credibility and really is no longer needed, Christ gave us the moral framework to live by, and a good percentage of people are choosing to leave and not belong to any organized religion, and are simply following the teaching that Christ gave us right within their own homes.

2006-11-20 04:50:38 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

CAUSE THEY ARE NOT BLIND,& no, they are just an excuse for control of the masses, corruption, eg, I suppose you think or BELIEVE that jesus was born on christmas day..The money that religions recieve from their apparent good work & charity goes mainly on wars or more dodgy ways to earn cash, like taking advantage of the drug addicted population that was created by religions, & government in the first place, how do you expect any one to live morally in a capitolist, dictatoral, dog eat dog controlling, to the point of beyond a joke society, guessing by your name you may be from birmingham, well what does birmingham have, oh a nice big expensive shiny building, so the masses can get ripped off in a nicer way, well you check out th rest of birmingham, it hasn't changed in 30 years, people still think the same, act the same & look as sad , but look how much money birmingham generates.Socialisation & conditioning is where the problem lies, i'M CONNECTING RELIGION TO GOVERNMENT CAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME THING, & what the hell is the queen for.

2006-11-20 04:39:30 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Organized religion, as such, has nothing to do with a "moral framework." That would imply that only by organized religion can we be a moral society.

Organized religion has gotten a bad rap because many of these "organized" religions turn their beliefs into persecutions of others.

I mean, it's one thing to believe that homosexuality is a sin, and another to organize a political lobby designed to deny that group basic human rights. It's not that they're lobbying to have homosexuals who rape put in prison - they're pushing their personal beliefs on others who don't believe it. IMO, that's far more immoral than people who want to live their life without interference from others.

In this example, gays aren't lobbying to have all marriage defined as civil unions. They aren't lobbying to deny heterosexuals any rights. They're just asking that here on earth they're treated like other humans created by God.

People can be spiritual - or atheist - and still have a moral framework. It may be different from yours or mine, but in the long run if their beliefs are not negatively and personally impacting another person, then it's not immoral.

I believe that immoral acts are acts that harm others. Bestiality is immoral - an animal can't consent. Child molestation is immoral because a child can't consent. Rape is immoral because it's forcible. Stealing takes something that rightfully belongs to another. How does homosexuality harm another human being?

2006-11-20 04:31:14 · answer #6 · answered by tagi_65 5 · 1 2

Moral frameworks DO NOT come from religion, they exist outside religion.
They are a natural part of human society that certain rules generally apply. It is only in the detail that religious morality differs.
It is not hard to understand why organised religion has been abandoned by many these days.
Whether it is "hated" or not is another matter.

2006-11-20 04:29:06 · answer #7 · answered by PSAF 3 · 4 2

My personal thinking - but I am certainly not alone - is that we are truly entering into the "Age of Enlightenment" where people are more and more recognising their right to question things that for hundreds of years they had b een been told it was wrong to do. . Most people end up being indoctrinated into whatever religious belief system their parents grew up with. As children they are told "this is this, and that is that, and it is wrong to question it. It is righteous to just "believe" to "have faith" and some day, perhaps in the next world all things will become clear to you"
Especially with the coming of the Internet, people today are able, as never before in human history, to "connect" with others from every corner of the globe, and exchange thoughts and opinions. Where in the past people were stuck in their own little neck o'the woods surrounded by the opinions and beliefs of their family members and their own community, now they are discovering the far wider range of human thinking, and more and more they are saying to themselves "I'm NOT the only one who feels this and thinks that, and asks such and such questions. And when you realise just how many others out there have exactly the same thoughts, and questions and doubts that YOU do, it creates a whole new confidence in yourself, and makes you realise that you truly do have the right to your own thinking, and believing.... or even not believing. For those who are beginning to recognise this... wait another couple of decades, because the genii is out of the bottle, and nobody is ever going to get it back in there.

2006-11-20 05:06:22 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

The trouble with religions is that they have never been the best at sharing space, they all believe that they alone are the true believers. The secular society of today is a response to the freedom of speech and religion we enjoy today : the state remains secular so that it is not biased against or in favour of one particular group. Sadly this is not always the case, but is the best system we have for preventing institutionalised bigotry. Some people will always look for something to rebel against, and many people choose religion, but this should not be of any real concern, as religions have lasted thousands of years and will survive this.

2006-11-20 04:28:32 · answer #9 · answered by Stannnn 3 · 2 2

Some people exist that hate organised religion because they have been hurt or had bad memories linking to organized religion.

I came to this conclusion due to speaking with some people who hate organised religion. This answer only applies to the people I spoke with and is not a hasty generalization of the entire population.

Another avenue, you could use is to speak to a person who falls in this category and get a response directly from them.

2006-11-20 04:57:21 · answer #10 · answered by dymps 4 · 0 0

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