The life of every human is predetermined by the will of God (so the evil shall be born evil, live evil, and die evil; ditto for the sick, the righteous, and the faithful).
So in theory, those who were meant to be killed are all a part of God's plan; right? Including aborted fetuses.
2006-11-20 03:53:45 · 17 answers · asked by Neo 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
To all those Christians saying that God didnt have anthing to do with Abortion, and that its just Humans free will, why do you say that its Gods will when you get a raise, or your father dies, or you become handicapped, or when you marry a woman? Do you hypocritical fools forget Free Will at that time?
2006-11-20 04:03:14 · update #1
See its kind of confusing because God did give us free will, so therefore, when someone dies at the hands of another, it is because it was the killers choice but the other person wouldnt have gone if it wasnt ''his time'' as for abortion, I dont know where I stand on that, Im on the fence but yes I guess you could say that it could be the childs time meaning they werent meant for earth just as miscarried babies arent...I dont know lol I dont mean any of this in a bad way though because I love children and I love my son more than the world so. I just cant explain what Im saying
2006-11-20 03:59:20 · answer #1 · answered by Fearfully & wonderfully made 4 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Somehow that "predetermination" theory sounds a bit warped. It gets a lot of explanations that I don't understand, God's sovereignty & man's free will working together like semi-Pelagianism, but I don't buy that either.
I just don't look at God as setting up His own little machine called the Universe, to watch it go while we have our own free will, either perceived or real. Therefore the only thing that makes any sense at all is a bunch of people that inherited a sinful nature, everyone, and I mean everyone, standing guilty before the Lord. That way free will doesn't matter any more, and we have a God that created a world that he decided was worth keeping by reaching out to His own even though we have no inclination to look to Him and thus deserve any destruction coming to us. This way I don't see any game being played, just a God who loves us in spite of ourselves.
And abortion? I think it's wrong, but maybe that also says something about the existence of God by defending life, where we might not hold any significance for it otherwise. But we do what we do as a society, and we leave it up to God to judge.
2006-11-21 11:11:17 · answer #2 · answered by ccrider 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You have done a great job at convoluting reasoning to your own answer.
We have free will - we choose our actions.
What you are missing is that in that free will we can follow God's will and direction or not. It is his will that everyone comes to know him and have eternal life - but many choose to turn away from that.
I am a beliver and scripture says to marry another believer - but I love this non-believer and think it will be fine - I have chosen to be away from what is clearly God's will. We do forget God's will and direction - we sin. Believers sin all the time but through faith are forgiven - and I say that with the most seriousness imaginable. Abortion is the taking of a life in God's eyes - a human life begins at the moment of conception. If I were in my mother's womb one moment after conception and my mother had an abortion - I would not be here - the life that was me is gone.
But the choice is made to end this lives every day. Also being handicapped is not God's will - that is a result of the fallen world we live in due to our rebellion (sin). God gives believers perfect bodies after death - that is a hope we have. A raise at work? God's provision and our hard work honoring him.
God's will and our actions are not the same thing - that is why we rebel, and are separated from God and are redeemed only through him.
You are a good thinker and had a good question - Pick up "The Purpose-Driven Life" by Rick Warren, It's clear, and explains things beautifully.
2006-11-20 12:18:06 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
The beauty of the Catholic theology is the belief that man is innately good. The presence of evil in the world is not because its God's will but the absence of good - w/c is basically saying that evil is brought about my man. Now the Church also clarifies that their is such a thing as social sin and personal sin. With regards to abortion, it is considered a sin if the woman underwants such operation. But if its due to maybe extreme poverty or some gray lines, the Church tends to look more heavily at the social sin and not on the individual who has dimished free will.
2006-11-20 12:22:25 · answer #4 · answered by David 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Abortion is murder.
Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
Exodus 21: 22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
Know this..... If God felt that He did not want that unborn baby to be born into this world, He would cause the mother to miscarry that baby at His own hand, and not at the hand of a gutless murderous, barbaric person who calls themselves "a doctor" who take an oath to at all costs preserve life, and do no harm.
2006-11-20 12:02:37 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
When a woman aborts her unborn child, she is rejecting God's hope and instead she is embracing despair. The fact that the child exists is God's test for the mother's faith...faith that the child was sent by God to serve some purpose in this world...faith that God will provide and that things will work out for the best...faith that she can survive the test to come...faith that life is not something to be planned out on paper and followed to the letter...faith that not only is her unborn baby's life worth living, but that so is her own.
Choosing Life for her unborn baby is the ultimate expression of love and faith in God that he will provide.
2006-11-20 16:26:54 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
You my friend are very confused. Our lives are not predetermined. We have a thing called free will that allows us to make choices every second of our lives that is what determines how our life and eternity will go. Also ABORTION IS MURDER AND THAT IS NOT GODS WILL.
2006-11-20 11:59:57 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
No...no...and no.... God has a predetermined will for our lives, but gives us freedom to choose paths. We choose abortion, He doesn't.
But I believe that women who have abortions will be led to God at some time in their lives, and that is part of His plan to have them turn to Him at some point in their lives, whether it be repentance or to realize what they've done. Killing is NEVER in God's plan!
2006-11-20 12:01:22 · answer #8 · answered by Big Bear 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
It is Gods will that all be saved. Every person has free will. Its His will that all be healed. Rom 8:28 "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.(WILL)".
Free will of man, the ability to choose Life or to choose Death. Rom 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
John 10:10 "The thief cometh not, but that he may steal, and kill, and destroy: I came that they may have life, and may have it abundantly".
2006-11-20 12:18:52 · answer #9 · answered by Cyndi 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Abortion is NOT God's will- as He tells us not to kill. "Thou shalt not kill"
--There is of course a reason for everything but to say it is ok to abort a baby is wrong. That goes against what God wants us to do.
2006-11-20 11:58:24 · answer #10 · answered by Mandolyn Monkey Munch 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋