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A good portion of you hold the views of helping others,and that you wish to help everyone.You love peace and freedom.Social programs are your answer.The government should persecute the rich because it's not fair they earned more than you legally.

So my question is this-
If you love democracy so much,why do all of your beliefs mirror the communist governments and dictatorships that all of you are supposed to hate so much?

I mean isn't America about freedom?Freedom over your own life?If you choose to be poor because you don't want to take the risk to make it rich,isn't that your own fault,not the government's?

One other question-
You can create and institute all the social programs you want.But if no one uses them because they'd rather stay the way they are,what good are they?You can't force people to use any program,just create it and hope they use it.But aren't things like welfare and the like a scourge to society?
Please use logic in your answers,not emotions.

2006-11-19 03:48:03 · 3 answers · asked by Vtmtnman 4 in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Other - Cultures & Groups

3 answers

As a supporter of the progressive movements within the Democratic, Republican and Green Parties, I find agreement among progressive liberals and conservatives on permanent solutions to poverty, ranging from business coops (i.e., fair trade where more profits are managed by farmer-worker cooperatives) and Microcredit Financing and business training. Both are proven successful in breaking the poverty cycle without handouts and with respect to free enterprise.

You are right, the current welfare system is such a scourge, it is widely protested by welfare recipients themselves, organized through activist groups such as the Welfare Warriors, because it punishes people for taking steps toward becoming independent and rewards remaining helpless.

Microcredit, however, is based on creating financial independence, through programs such as the Grameen Bank which won a Nobel Prize for their success in Bangladesh and worldwide. The branch in Dallas, Texas, collaborates with public institutions, including the Federal Reserve, on similar educational programs where microloan applicants receive free training to new business owners to manage finances under a successful business plan.

(2) The reason both liberal Democrats and conservative Republicans come across to the other as imposing a dictatorship by their agendas is that the bipartisan political system of voting by majority rule encourages such campaigns.

This polarized system is easily played and manipulated in the media, since only 51% vote is required to defeat the opposing side. So instead of encouraging cooperation on common solutions, as I credit Colin Powell for advocating publicly, the media campaigns are focused on creating and perpetuating opposition, to sell air time and ratings as any other competitive sport. However, human rights and freedoms are not a football game; democracy is not a spectator sport but involves all people where the point is for everyone to win, not to divide into two teams and fight to the death. So I blame the abuse of the political system for why people posture behind symbolic representations, using Republican and Democratic leaders as red and blue poker chips in a never ending gamble, instead of taking real money and real ideas and investing directly in joint solutions that everyone can agree on.

Only the most progressive Green, Democrat and Republican activists think on this level, and seek to work across party lines on real solutions to immigration and crime issues, welfare and government bureaucracy, and legal and judicial reform, among other problems that the current system fails to address.

As a self-critical member of the Democratic Party, I see the solution emerging among members of the various parties who are seeking to work together to overcome partisan biases that are obstructing political progress. There are more books and advocates speaking out on the need for change in this direction, which I believe will allow real solutions to be implemented.

http://www.houstonprogressive.org/hypocrisy.html
http://www.houstonprogressive.org/mediahype.html
http://www.houstonprogressive.org/isocracy.html

2006-11-19 04:28:33 · answer #1 · answered by emilynghiem 5 · 0 0

Why I would want a social network to stay for the poor is the same reason it stays for the most of western europe. We're all such diverse people, we need someone to clean the street and deliver newspapers...likewise there will be others who choose not to work I agree...but again where will the money come from? We can't force them or jail them can we? What they will end up doing is criminalising the neighbourhoods of those who can afford luxuries. In much larger numbers than today. Or imagine a riot caused by thousands of unhappy citizens with nothing to loose for they already have nothing? The local economy might even collapse and then the ones who could have paid a bit more of taxes and averted this would suffer. It's a small sacrifice to keep everything running.

2006-11-19 03:57:21 · answer #2 · answered by Craiova 5 · 0 0

We dispute your claim that people choose to be poor.

Furthermore, we believe that, in a democracy, the money we pay in taxes should go to the things that we decide. Some of those things involve not letting people starve to death.

We'd rather our tax money be spent on that than in subsidies to the rich, who don't really need them.

Since the rich own our government and set the rules, they set up the rules to maintain their wealth and power unjustly, at the expense of all of the people who actually do all of the work.

We don't think government should persecute the rich, but we do think that the people with all of the money should have to pay taxes.

We don't believe in dictatorships; we believe that governments should serve all of their citizens, not only the richest citizens.

There clearly is an underclass in this country. Those born to poor parents, living in poor areas go to schools that are also poor and don't have the facilities that children of the rich have.

Thus, they don't have the same educational and economic opportunities that the rich have. We believe people should not be punished their whole lives for having been born poor.

BTW, much more government handouts go to corporate welfare than to welfare for the poor.

Social programs are not the only thing we believe in.

For example, we believe that polluters should not write environmental law.

We do love democracy. We think that money taken in taxes should go where we, the citizens of the country, want it to go. It shouldn't be spent on hurting the citizens, but on helping and protecting them.

It isn't the liberals who think the government should decide who people should be allowed to marry or when they should be required to procreate; we think people should make these and other life decisions for themselves.

2006-11-19 04:36:17 · answer #3 · answered by tehabwa 7 · 1 0

He who sees communism in this government doesn't know what communism means...

2006-11-19 06:36:38 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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