Isn't Judas a hero?

Question

From an anti-theist point of view: why would you think Judas went anywhere besides heaven? If it wasn't for Judas, your Jesus could not have died for you. He loved Jesus and was so ridden with guilt that his only escape was to take his own life! Jesus foretold that one of his disciples would betray him. Judas had to do this in order for Jesus's prophecy and god's divine plan to come together. Therefore, Judas was created to do evil which opens up a whole 'nother can of worms. He was created for the express purpose of betraying Jesus. Shouldn't Judas be praised for bringing about your salvation? He was a key player in god's plan, did his part, and now he's condemned to hell!?

Answer 1

I have thought this for years but you are the first I ever heard say it.

You my friend have a dangerous mind.

Love and blessings Don

Answer 2

Christianity teaches that no matter how big a sin you commit you pray and its tossed to the ocean floor or forgotten forever. It takes time, but you are eventually helped through the spirit and can be relieved of guilt and shame. Judas was created to betray Jesus, that's true. Where he went wrong was in the suicide. That is the one thing that you can't fix. You can murder someone and ask forgiveness and if you truly mean it and turn away for sin it's wiped away. However, if the person you kill is yourself, that kind of makes that whole thing impossible. Granted, I understand where you're coming from with the guilt theory, but Judas had been with Jesus enough to know the teachings and also to understand that Christians are to regard their body as a temple. This also brings about a BIG part of Christianity that people often forget. God can't stop you from doing or make you do anything you wouldn't normally want to do. He left in humans a free will. You are to be close to God and know his teachings so that when the time comes, you know what is right. Judas was a player in God's plan, but he didn't have to kill himself. His part was done when he betrayed Jesus, but he commited suicide and therefore couldn't ask for forgiveness for his sins.

Answer 3

Your question is valid; many New Testement scholars have lately proposed that very point: that Jesus in fact knew Judas was going to betray him, and in fact, instructed him to do so, so as to fullfill prophecy and help Jesus put the Passion into works. If so, I don't know if I would go so far as to call Judas a hero, but he would definately been another cog in the works.
By the way--that view would NOT be an "anti-theist" point of view. An anti-theirs would be either an atheist, who wouldn't believe in any of this, or a "deist," who believes in only an impersonal creator-type God, like a Creative Force, and not a Biblical God.

Answer 4

Judas was a man who was given great opportunity which he exploited to his own condemnation. Jesus called him as a disciple and give him the position of trust as treasurer of the group of twelve. He followed Jesus and witnessed the great miracles and yet never believed that Jesus was who he claimed to be. Judas thought that he could have it all; he could betray Jesus for 30 pieces of silver and it appeared that he thought Jesus would escape from his captors. However, when he saw that Jesus would die, he tried to reverse his actions by returning the money. We find however, that there was no room for repentance and in his remorse he takes his own life. Judas kissed the door of heaven and plunged into a sinner's hell.

Answer 5

From the bible, New Testament specifically,we know Judas was a disciple of Jesus, one of the twelve apostles. We know Judas was sent on a mission pair with another apostle. We know Judas accepted money to hand over Jesus to the temple authority. We know Judas identified Jesus in the garden. We know Jesus returned the money to the temple. We know Judas saw Jesus after his resurrection. And we know Judas committed suicide. This is what we know.

What we also know is that God, not man, judges.

What we know is that of your question with its details is not support by the four accounts of Jesus life, death and resurrection. Is it something left out? Maybe. But so are pink elephants (just because you haven't seen one, does not mean it doesn't exist).

To be fair, you will hear some that claim Judas committed suicide because he was unable to accept Jesus as Christ and/or that he lost hope. As wonderful that may sound, it is also not based on what we know from the New Testament.

With all kindness: Everything your question with its details is based upon Christianity belief, maybe you should spend more time in the book with the revelation that we know (reveal knowledge).

Answer 6

No he is not a hero. God gives everyone freewill. Judas made the choice to betray Jesus. Just because God knew it would happen doesn't mean Judas didn't have the choice.

God is not bound by time and space which is difficult to understand by those of us who are. People frequently try to fit God into our rules and limitations, but that is where many misunderstand.

I don't claim to comprehend everything about God, but how could anyone. He created the universe and all life. Mankind cannot even keep one person from ultimately dieing, what makes us think we could comprehend the author of life

Answer 7

Before you can come to that conclusion, check out Mark 14; 21 " True, the Son of man is going away, just as it is written concerning him, but woe to that man through whom the Son of man is betrayed! It would have been finer for that man if he had not been born."

While i agree that God can use humans to serve his purpose, that 's a critical judgement to say Judas was created for the sole purpose of betraying Christ. That takes free will completely out of the picture.
Notice this scripture at Romans 1; 24 " Therefore, God, in keeping with the desires of their hearts, gave them up to uncleanness.....
The Gospels say that Judas was stealing from the treasury box even before the final act, so he had gotten greedy. Judas may very well have commited the unforgivable sin against the Holy spirit, cause again before it happened, Jesus said at the last supper at Luke 22; 22 ' Because the Son of man is going his way according to what is marked out, all the same , woe to that man through whom he is betrayed. "
Also, an act of suicide is not a true sign of repentence, it is one of lost hope.

Answer 8

Judas was a misguided person who betrayed his Lord and compounded his mistake by taking his life. I do not know where he landed, that is for God to decide. But, yes I lean towards hell. Had he waited I truely believe he, like Peter and Thomas, would have had a face to face encounter with the risen Lord and would have had a chance to believe and be forgiven.
Ask yourself this, if he was doing as Jesus instructed, why the clandestine meeting with the chief priests? Also, why would Christ himself say betray? Would he not better have said one, or Judas, you will go to the Priests and bring them to me so that it might be finished as it was written.

Also consider Matthew 10:4
Simon the Zealot and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him.

From Matthew 26
20When evening came, Jesus was reclining at the table with the Twelve. 21And while they were eating, he said, "I tell you the truth, one of you will betray me."

22They were very sad and began to say to him one after the other, "Surely not I, Lord?"

23Jesus replied, "The one who has dipped his hand into the bowl with me will betray me. 24The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born."

Luke 22: 2-4
2and the chief priests and the teachers of the law were looking for some way to get rid of Jesus, for they were afraid of the people. 3Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve. 4And Judas went to the chief priests and the officers of the temple guard and discussed with them how he might betray Jesus.
In Psalm 41:9 it is believed to prophesy Judas betrayal

9 Even my close friend, whom I trusted, he who shared my bread, has lifted up his heel against me.

I know some will say he had no choice and other say destiny, but Christ himself told Peter that he would disown him and even with that knowledge Peter did just that.

Answer 9

on the time of Christ's delivery the inhabitants replaced into searching for a pacesetter. They observed it as a warrior and fighter to unite the inhabitants and loose them from the slavery of Rome. Judas replaced into attempting to get Jesus to face up remember in this holy wrestle for justice.

Answer 10

He was part of God's plan. But you see, this is a military plan to save the lost and will send all athiest to Hell...This is a battle in which God will win...SO get saved before it's to late!