and victorian sentimentality anyway. Make it a real holy day. Dec 25 is probably not the birthday of the historical Jesus if he ever existed, but I don’t wanna start a fight about that one. It's the commercialization of Christmas that bothers me. How can you celebrate the birth of the man who was always saying stuff like “blessed are the poor in spirit” and “if you want to follow me give your possessions to the poor” with the spectacle of greed and glitter and covetousness and avarice that .the modern Christmas has become? Do this. Have a nice simple dinner with family and friends and exchange simple handmade gifts after attending services at church. Take back your Holy Day from the American Greed Machine.
What do you think?
2006-11-18 02:57:43 · 26 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
1) Spelling Holiday Holy day was an attempt to emphasize the religious nature of the day, not the commercial. That may have been too subtle for some.
2) You don't think people would respect you more if you walked it like you talked it?
2006-11-18 03:13:09 · update #1
I think it's a nice dream... won't happen though
2006-11-18 03:00:49 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
This one keeps coming up over and over. Let me tell you that even though I'm non-religious, and an old history nut, I have no objection to anyone else celebrating Christmas or any other religious or non-religious holidays.
Yes, most of us know how and why the winter solstice was chosen as the time of the nativity. What's the big deal ? How does that harm you or me ?
As for commercialing Christmas - - - that's what businesses do. I don't go along with it, and you probably don't either, but what the other guy does is none of my business, so long as he's breaking no laws.
There are many things in this world that we might not like, learn to live with them. It will take a lot of pressure off.
2006-11-18 03:19:10 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
well done ..people take words for granted
Holy Day is properly spelled in this case
well most rituals of christianity have been stolen from Paganism [I prefer to call it our Old Religion ] for convenient reasons ..if people couldn't relate to symbols theyknew from natural tradition ,they would refuse a new religion .
. even the USA is a country founded on Paganism as it is based on the ideas of the Ancient Greek philosofers ..wich were not christians ..
.the Tree and other Xmas gadgets are all reminescent of the old days ..
so our true traditions have been transplanted and soon enough they have become an hype
and the sacredness of it , irrilevant if accurate or not, has lost its meaning ..sad but true
greed yes .
. everyone should celebrate their Holy Days as it seems fit to them
it would be great if the meanings were preserved ..some folks do .. but the masses are living in illusions .. and you can only try and remind them ...
I see what you are saying
Samhain [Halloween ] is still in the air and shops are already pestering us with the next in line
so called 'holiday '
I find it so annoying .. but I try to ignore it ..
and live according to more natural rythyms..
2006-11-18 03:37:49 · answer #3 · answered by angelica 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
As long as I have been around Christmas has been a society thing, not a religious thing. The comercialism has always outweighted the religious because people enjoy all the celebrations. A lot of athiestic people celebrate christmas. Just accept it for what it is, enjoy it, and go to church to learn about God and serve Him. I could spend my life trying to get rid of all the commercialism out of Christmas and make it a religious holiday, and what would I have accomplished?
2006-11-18 03:04:34 · answer #4 · answered by oldguy63 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Pagans stealing Christmas? It was the other way around. They knew that the had no chance in the world coming up with their own traditions so they had to borrow and steal the ones that they have to this day. The evergreen, yule log, ivy, mistletoe, and many other PAGAN traditions have pagan roots not christian. As for the "true meaning of Christmas" what exactly is that? The birth of Christ? No that is false also. If Christ was born he was born in the springtime not winter. As a Pagan I have no qualms about sharing my holidays but what I would love is for people to realize that they are my holidays also.
2016-05-22 00:48:33 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Intention, intention, intention . . . yes, commercialism has gone full scale but people can choose to celebrate the true spirit of Christmas and not keep up with the Jones. Don't lump everyone into the most obvious category. A person's intentions and practice on the day has a lot to do with what is happening. Anyone who believes and tries to keep up with the media and commercialism has missed the point.
2006-11-18 03:14:30 · answer #6 · answered by whozethere 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
That's what Christmas is about anyways, celebrating the birth of Christ with family and friends. The church didn't commercialized Christmas hallmark, and company's who want to profit from it did. Christmas isn't the official birthday of Christ, the church place it around that time because a lot of pagan holidays fell around December and they wanted to make it easier to celebrate. So before you go accusing Christians and the church of having a false holiday and not knowing the meaning of Christmas, do your research first please!!
2006-11-18 03:18:30 · answer #7 · answered by Annie 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
It doesn't matter what Day Jesus Christ was borne on. It also doesn't matter that the early Church Fathers choose a Pagan Holiday to Celebrate His Birth. What matters is that we Celebrate Him ! What ever December 25 was, it is Christmas NOW ! Unless one happens to be Orthodox, and that is fine too !
I partly agree about the over Commercialization of Christmas. But we Christians didn't do that. The secular world did that. It is the secularization of Christmas, and the removeing of Jesus Christ from Christmas that we've been objecting to all this time.
2006-11-18 03:11:24 · answer #8 · answered by Minister 4 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Ah come on. You're allowed to spoil the kids a little at Christmas time. Apart from that what you say about commercialisation is spot on. Dinner will be with family and friends (although "simple" probably isn't going to cover it).
Sod the "handmade gifts" though, if you want to really do Christmas without the commerce why not give adults these "gifts-on-their-behalf" type gifts that charities do. Instead of buying X another tie you can buy some people a herd of sheep on their behalf. Go on - buy your mother in law a goat, you know its appropriate!
2006-11-18 03:14:50 · answer #9 · answered by anthonypaullloyd 5 · 0⤊ 2⤋
I agree. Many of today's rituals/traditions are based in pagan customs. As a Christian it is a struggle to celebrate the true meaning of Christmas (regardless if it is the acutal day or not, we still celebrate the birth of Christ) with all the commercialization around us. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a Christian who would disagree.
Our family growing up celebrated Christmas with the 3 wisemen rule. Jesus got 3 gifts from the wisemen. Our parents only gave us 3 gifts. Santa still came to our house. He was a historically real man, and we celebrate his kindness and compassion with Christmas. After all, these are traits that Jesus himself practiced and preached that we should.
Our Christmas custom was "everything in moderation" (to borrow phrasology from the Buddhists). I think that's one way to keep the commercialization out of Christmas and truely celebrate it as a holy day.
2006-11-18 03:02:41 · answer #10 · answered by mandiedq 3 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Most know that.
Don't forget this time of year the shelters provide the most lavish dinners to those on the streets they can. Most of the time it's just a simple soup kitchen with a modest sandwich or canned soup. For Thanksgiving and Christamas they put it on big time and those Capitalist greedy people often donate boxes of things to the shelters.
2006-11-18 03:04:15 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋