Tasing of UCLA student?

Question

As you know, one young man was "supposedly" randomly checked for ucla student ID, turns out he was one of the Iranian people in the library (you must be ucla student after 11pm).
he apparently did not have his id so he WAS LEAVING the library when the UCPD grabbed his arm and he asked them to release him.
HE WAS TASERED, then asked to get up.. When you get tasered once, you might not be able to move for up to 5 minutes.. not to mention he was tasered over 5 times and even exclaimed that he has a medical condition

This is very abusive and luckily this now understood as a UCLA student has i believe 80 witnesses
i really hope these police get sued

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Do you now understand why this is so vile and unnecessary by the UCPD?

Answer 1

I'm glad the little bastard got his. If I was there, I would have sprayed him with water trying to get the bastard to fry.

Boo hoo hoo, you ignore a cop you get tazed. He is probably here on an expired student visa to learn goat shaving or cattle molestation... F him and this b.s. question

Answer 2

When it comes down to it, a good understanding of the department's use of force policy is required before anyone comes to any conclusion as to whether or not this is a case of police brutality. Most people I have come across seem to think that officers can simply pick someone up who is resistive in an effective manner with little reprocussion. Unless you are experienced in the matter, you will never fully understand the difficulty invovled.

The job was a lot different before tasers and pepper spray. In the old days, the police officers would have applied a joint restraint thereby inflicting mass pain coupled with the potential of breaking a bone. A taser on the other hand causes excrutiating pain for as long as it is applied. The effect wears off within a matter of a few seconds (not 5 minutes) and has a minimal threat to anyone's medical condition. Having been tasered with and without the barbs as well as getting the full 5-second ride, I can attest to this.

Had the police officers used pain compliance or even pepper spray, everyone present would be crying just the same. As such, I recommend others to look into previous case studies such as Graham vs. Conner and the subject matter regarding "objective reasonableness." Maybe then, we can appreciate the debate as objectively and accurately as possible.

Answer 3

A university is usually far more tolerant and respectful of students' rights, and far more restrictive on police brutality, than outside the university gates. Having worked in universities for the past 20 years, I can safely say the behavior of the UCLA PD as exhibited in the 6-minute video (not 10 seconds) is inexcusable. They could have dragged the guy out, let him scream all he wants. If he resisted phsycially, they could have handcuffed him -- for 200 years our police did not need tasers or pepper spray to handcuff people. (Maybe he was already handcuffed when they Tasered him, which is even less excusable.)

There is a big difference between being tased once (often by a low-voltage) in a test situation and having it done to you multiple times in a row in a hostile situation. There have been 73 deaths associated with tasers between 1999 and 2004. Even police officers in five states have sued Taser International claiming they "suffered serious injuries after being shocked with the device during training classes." http://orlando.injuryboard.com/defective-products/an-alternative-to-the-defective-and-deadly-taser.php

P.S. Graham vs. Conner, 490 US 386 (1989) examines whether officers have used excessive force (deadly or not) in the course of an arrest, investigatory stop or other seizure. It concludes this should be analyzed under the Fourth Amendment’s "objective reasonableness" standard. Regarding the matter of objective reasonableness, the court will consider the following: The severity of the crime (low in this case, not showing an ID); whether the suspect poses an immediate threat to the safety of the officers or others (no -- hypotheticals are not evidence, Mostafa had no weapon and was posing no violent threat to anyone); whether the suspect is actively resisting arrest (no, he was walking towards the door) or attempting to evade arrest by flight (no, he was walking towards the door, then incapacitated).

Answer 4

I watched the tape and the police are well within their scope of force. The student was asked multiple times to get up and refused. Level 2 on the force continuum is taser. Having been tased several times myself, I assure you it does not take more than 3 seconds to be ready to re-engage in a fight. If the student did not wish to ride the white lightening, he simply could have complied with what the officers were saying. He was handcuffed and decided to lay on the ground and fight. Good thing the police didn't decide to just pepper-spray the fool. That would last for a good 3 hours. Good job for the men in blue.

Answer 5

They uses guns set to Drive Stun it does not immobolize you just put you in great pain......if he had a medical condition why didn't he say What it was....everyone has a condition...a cold is a medical condition....if he says..I have a heart problem and they tase him yes the police were out of line...

Yeah he was leaving..but after repeated requests to leave.....that triggers police attention and justifies the police grabbing him....

Fact is he could have gotten up the police were well aware of what they were doing and he could have gotten up

Answer 6

we don't comprehend the tale, yet he became uncooperative and verbally abusive on the video I observed. we don't comprehend if he bodily threatened or only resisted, in spite of the undeniable fact that it became unlawful for him to do the two. The Taser is an incredible device, and it does not incapacitate for from now on than it relatively is deployed. as quickly because of the fact the Taser is became off, you may arise and walk and communicate and chew gum. i comprehend because of the fact i became Tasered; my cousin have been given one for deepest protection- IT SUCKS GETTING Tasered, yet as quickly because it relatively is executed, it relatively is executed. and that they do no longer kill human beings- human beings have died after being Tasered, in spite of the undeniable fact that that's often been linked to extreme drug use or different pre-latest well being situations, in spite of Amnesty Internationals' loopy claims. additionally, in the video, he needless to say became no longer handcuffed. SO if he maintains to stand up to, he maintains to get Tasered. My in effortless terms theory is that quite a few officers would desire to in all threat have only picked the fool up by utilising each and every grabbing a limb, and stopped Tasering him, yet, back, we weren't there. In precis, looks and sounds justified to me- fool became a difficulty, they dealt with it, no person became injury.

Answer 7

Poor officers who were not smart enough to lift a handcuffed student by force .

I know , the student is soooo dangerous - especially when he is handcuffed.

They had to taze the student multiple times just because they were incompetent.

Answer 8

Yeah, seeing the pigs get sued for yet another one of their typical over-reactions which, as usual, resulted in the use of excessive force, would be sweet.

Answer 9

It continues to amaze me that after watching a 10 second video phone clip, everyone is in a rush to say the cops are in the wrong.

And I was not aware that being a dumbass was a valid medical condition...............