A marine in Iraqu threw himself on a grenade. When it exploded he was killed. The grenade was thrown into a group of soldiers and had he not covered it many would have been killed and injured. Question. Should his family (as far as that goes,everyone) be proud of him? Or, should they feel he did a dumb thing, made a big mistake that cost him his life? Will he go to heaven (he prevented others from being killed) or will he go to hell because in doing this he killed himself? Question 2. I guy I sort of know went on a kind of lecture tour. I guess he didn't come off too well because a bunch of people got mad (big time) at him. I guess they told him to get out, quit lecturing or something like that. He didn't listen. They caught up to him and he was eventually thrown in jail-.but he didn't learn his lesson. When he got out of jail he went right back to lecturing. Did he do the right thing for sticking up for himself? Or- Should he have just figured it was a bad idea and quit?
2006-11-17 19:39:07 · 23 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Here is what God said on the matter:
John 15:13 -
Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends.
He did what needed to be done. He sacrificed himself so many could live. Sound familiar?
2006-11-17 19:46:22 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
The soldier did the right thing and likely the only thing. If the grenade was not smothered he would likely have still been killed and more of his group killed as well. Yes his family should be proud of him. They should also be pissed at politicians who put people into harms way for personal reasons.
About the lecturing, well is that not what free speech is all about. Even if it is a radical fool the freedom to speak your mind is a fundamental right even for the mental. There are very few restrictions on it that can be tolerated before it is lost totally.
Nelson Mandela would be a good example.
And I do not believe in Heavens or Hells so no he does not go to hell, or heaven, he is just dead. sorry.
later edit: I was curious about what other answers you might have got so I returned to reread them. As much as I detest the writings of Ayn Rand M.C. Hummer gives a very good answer.
2006-11-17 19:49:38 · answer #2 · answered by Barabas 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
1. The military instills the same sort of brainwashing and collectivism that religion, communism and fascism do. To call jumping on a grenade a "selfless act" is right, but not for the reasons people think. It's "selfless" because the person has no sense of self anymore, and is no longer an individual thinking being.
If anyone responds by saying "Other people would have died!", that's poppycock: people wouldn't be in that situation if collectivist ideologies didn't put them there. Wars happen because of "der fatherland", or "god" or "We're right, kill everybody else!" The US is in Iraq because of "national interests", not terrorism; the US wouldn't have been attacked on 9/11 if "national interests" hadn't been practiced on other countries (ie. US terrorism against other people).
2. Whether it's Ghandi, MLK Jr., SB Anthony, Mandela or any other, the dissidents are more heroic than any disposable hero - oops, soldier.
Rick Baccus and James Yee did more to stop anti-US sentiment than ANY yank since 9/11: James Yee tried to comfort prisoners at Guantanamo and let their families know who was alive but DID NOT transmit "messages" to Al Qaeda as he was falsely accused of. Rick Baccus, before he was removed from the job and before the torture of kidnapees at Guantanamo began, told all those kidnapped about their rights under the Geneva Conventions. Baccus interrogated those people in accordance with Geneva, and for obeying the law, his career was destroyed out of pettiness and vindictiveness.
There are many other REAL heroes in the US today: Karen Kwiatkowski, Joe Wilson, Bunnatine H. Greenhouse, (look up those names) and all the conscientious objectors are more heroic than anyone the Smirking Chimp calls a "hero". That clown never served, so what does he know about heroism?
Anyone who would silence critics of a government don't deserve free speech or democracy. The critics are PROTECTING free speech and democracy, not threatening it.
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2006-11-17 20:11:33 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
This is a tough question...OK I'm a Christan..just to say that first... The Marines family should be proud he paid a very high price to save the others life...to the family that's hurting, that might be hard to do, being as they would have rather had him alive..as to whether he goes to heaven or hell..that depends entirely on whether he was saved..you don't go to heaven for things you did or didn't do..the only way is accepting Jesus free gift of salvation....
As for the guy lecturing...I guess he should stand up for what he believes, But for them to ban him from doing it..I'm thinking it was something bad...but we all have our beliefs and if I was lecturing about something I believed in and believed GOD wanted me doing it...then nothing would stop me from doing it....
2006-11-17 19:51:11 · answer #4 · answered by Shonda 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The soldier who threw himself on the grenade performed a heroic act to save others, he didn't commit suicide so there's no consequences that might be implied. No, he's not going to hell. With that reasoning, anyone who volunteered for military service, knowing he was going to fight a war would be volunteering for suicide? No, they aren't going to hell.
Second question ... there isn't enough information about what type of lecture he is giving to get a clear concise picture, so difficult to answer. It would depend entirely what he was crusading about as to whether he should hang it up when met with opposition or remain steadfast because it's the right thing to do. General rule, stand up for what you believe in, but can't answer that one definitively.
2006-11-17 19:49:13 · answer #5 · answered by MyPreshus 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Pride in your son giving his life for others is my answr. But if it were my kid I dont know what I would think. The Marine in question was well trained. He did not think of himself. That alone is a testament to his character. I dont really know if he went to Heaven or Hell. But I do know some guys out there in the world are awful lucky to have served with the dead guy. Big mistake for him yeah. For the others not. More like a miracle.
What was the lecture about?
If it wasnt anything illegal like child porn or Nazis or something , then he should stick to his guns.
2006-11-17 19:48:58 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
1. The guy did a brave thing. He gave up his life so that many others could live. He won't go to heaven or hell, but his family should be proud of him and the men he saved should honor his legacy.
2. Depends on what the guy was lecturing about. All ideas aren't created equal. If it was "why we should defend human rights" then he's a hero. If it was "why the KKK is the greatest club ever" then he's a jerk.
2006-11-17 19:45:18 · answer #7 · answered by Black Parade Billie 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Atheists are continuously answering questions directed to Christians and frequently fairly rudely insulting us in the approach. And no, as interestingly many atheists spend time right here for the only purpose of antagonizing Christians, that doesn't be a pretend allegation and for this reason, no longer an un-Christ like difficulty to do. in case you weren't right here to antagonize Christians, you will handle questions to different faiths besides.
2016-10-15 17:00:47 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I have a friend from Georgia, she had a letter a few months ago about one of her school friends.
while in class at school the children were asked to assemble guns and had the use of dead grenades, during the lesson one of the grenades started to make a noise, this young boy grabbed the item and turned away form his class mates at which the grenade exploded and he died.
he thought nothing of his own life and chose to die rather than have many of his friends be killed or injured.
I personally think it was a truly heroic thing that saved many lives, just like the soldier.
and again like other answers if you have something to say its worth saying whatever the consequences. like the apostle Paul, he was stones and left for dead but he still went back to lystra to preach
2006-11-17 19:56:26 · answer #9 · answered by Twilight_dreaming 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I would have to know what he was talking about to be able to say weather I think he was right or wrong in him continueing to talk about what he believed in. But in a way yes I think he should keep lecturing about what he believes in as long as it does no harm to to other. Hilter I would not want him to keep talking cause he wanted people to die, Jesus on the other hand wanted people to live.
As for the soldier that died , I am not sure just one act will or will not get you into heaven. No matter, his family should be proud of him, He went to war and served his country.
2006-11-17 19:50:33 · answer #10 · answered by LadyCatherine 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I do not quite get the lecture story, sorry. But I think that Marine did a wonderful thing. I honestly hope his family is proud of him, although they would feel sad for losing him as well, it is enevitable... And no, he is not going to hel, people judging this selfless deed might end up there (if there is a hell).
2006-11-17 19:45:12 · answer #11 · answered by krisi 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋