Is Catholic theology on the Trinity from the Hellenistic concept of the Logos? How did the Trinity originate?

Question

Is it possible that Jesus doesn't want Christian theology to be an extension of Greek or Hellenistic philosophy?

Answer 1

Jesus revealed the reality of the Holy Trinity in His teaching which you can see from the Gospels.
the meaning of logos in greek had various meanings as well as meaning Word,it also meant,meaning,reason,principle, but was generally used to mean the underlying order of reality that people are only unconsciously aware.
so it is not surprising that the new Christian church would see in this that Jesus is the revealed Logos and that as this concept of the true Logos became the ideal for conversion of Helenists it would not be wrong to have developed it in this way.

Answer 2

The Church of the First Three Centuries says: "The doctrine of the Trinity was of gradual and comparatively late formation; . . . it had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian Scriptures; . . . it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity, through the hands of the Platonizing Fathers."

By the end of the third century C.E., "Christianity" and the new Platonic philosophies became inseparably united. As Adolf Harnack states in Outlines of the History of Dogma, church doctrine became "firmly rooted in the soil of Hellenism [pagan Greek thought]. Thereby it became a mystery to the great majority of Christians."

The church claimed that its new doctrines were based on the Bible. But Harnack says: "In reality it legitimized in its midst the Hellenic speculation, the superstitious views and customs of pagan mystery-worship."

In the book A Statement of Reasons, Andrews Norton says of the Trinity: "We can trace the history of this doctrine, and discover its source, not in the Christian revelation, but in the Platonic philosophy . . . The Trinity is not a doctrine of Christ and his Apostles, but a fiction of the school of the later Platonists."

Thus, in the fourth century C.E., the apostasy foretold by Jesus and the apostles came into full bloom. Development of the Trinity was just one evidence of this. The apostate churches also began embracing other pagan ideas, such as hellfire, immortality of the soul, and idolatry. Spiritually speaking, Christendom had entered its foretold dark ages, dominated by a growing "man of lawlessness" clergy class.—2 Thessalonians 2:3, 7.

Answer 3

Yes, according to the World Book Enclopedia, Plato the Greek philosopher influence much of Augustine's thinking on the Trinity.

Aside from World Book, many other reference materials say that the word 'Trinity" is not found in the Bible, that it can not find support in the Bible, and that the concept took root only 3-4 centuries after Christ's death.

Answer 4

The doctrine of the Trinity is supported throughout Scripture. Although Christianity has suffered through many trials, there's still a remnant of true believers who have suffered and died since the 1st century right up until the present. No one will die for what they know to be a lie. As far as the concept of the Logos is concerned, read the first chapter of John for the answer to all your questions.

Answer 5

The revisionism and lies of Watchman is alm ost funny. It exploits peoples fear and ignorance. Even the quotes from alleged Catholic encyclopedias are falsified. Of course, no accessible resource is ever given in order that he cover up his treachery.

The doctrine of the Trinity is encapsulated in Matthew 28:19, where Jesus instructs the apostles: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

The parallelism of the Father, the Son, and the Spirit is not unique to Matthew’s Gospel, but appears elsewhere in the New Testament (e.g., 2 Cor. 13:14, Heb. 9:14), as well as in the writings of the earliest Christians, who clearly understood them in the sense that we do today—that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are three divine persons who are one divine being (God).

The term “Trinity” was first used around the time of the 12th Pope, St. Soter (166-175), and the 13th Pope, St. Eleutherius (175-189). Theophilus was bishop of Antioch, and use the Greek “trias”, which was Latinized into “trinitas” about A.D. 180. He speaks of "the Trinity of God [the Father], His Word and His Wisdom ("Ad. Autol.", II, 15). The term may, of course, have been in use before his time.

Afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian ("De pud." c. xxi). In the next century the word is in general use.

Just as the term “Trinity” is not found anywhere in the bible, we both know that its meaning is explicitly taught. The same goes for other doctrinal concepts that, though the term is not found in the bible, we know its meaning is explicitly taught.

Answer 6

The Greeks contributed a precise scientific and scholarly language to the world, as well as an ordered and logical philosophical system.

St. John may well have developed these disciplines in order to complete his work, but the concepts of the logos (Jesus being the flesh image of the invisible God) and the Trinity (3 divine, coequal, and coeternal persons in one God) came from Jesus, not the Greeks.

When the Holy Spirit descended on the apostles at Pentecost, the concept became absolutely clear to them, and they made it an official part of their oral tradition, as no new testament scripture had yet been written.

Those who came later, and who did not have the direct benefit of personally experiencing either Jesus Christ or Pentecost, had a much harder time deciding who God was, and whether the Trinity was in fact, the proper way to define the matter.

No one has yet been able to satisfactorily explain how the Trinity actually works, but no one has been able to explain how God could have always existed either, so we take these things on faith.

Answer 7

Some interesting thing, to say the least, written here.
without getting very technical (original languages):
Jesus said "The father and I are ONE" (meaning the same in nature, quality, character etc...)
Jesus said that if he goes, God would send ANOTHER comforter to us. (again, of the same in nature, character etc...)
The Bible states that God the father created everything, that Christ created everything and that the Spirit of God created all things
That the Father raised Christ, That only Jesus had the power to lay down his life and PICK IT UP AGAIN, and that the Holy Ghost raised Christ.

It is clear, from nothing else but the Bible, itself, that either there is a polytheistic view or that the three are one, seeing that Christ sated that he and the father are one, the idea of polytheism is errant

The term trinity, while being extra-biblical, is accurate in describing what is dramatically inconceivable to us.
It is not based on Hellenistic or any other philosophy.
The Catholic Church did NOT invent this doctrine.

Answer 8

Yes, what Jesus taught should never have been blended with Greek philosophies. Al that has done is confused Christianity and that's why there are so many different denominations today with different beliefs.

Answer 9

The idea of the God being multiple in one is found in the Old Testamant. In the original Hebrew Genesis says, "let us make man in our own image." So it was there from the beginning.

Answer 10

it originated right in the Bible
Matt 28:19
i John 5:7