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2006-11-17 05:57:51 · 24 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

it says Jesus is the son of God. how do you fight with that?

2006-11-17 05:59:49 · update #1

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That's funny, I remember Jesus saying repeatedly that he was NOT the son of God. He said he was the Son of Man. He claimed God was his father, but not necessarily in the biological sense, and he didn't claim any special relationship.

But regardless, the bible is a collection of mythology. Believe it if it makes you happy, but don't pretend there's some kind of proof that you're right and everyone else is wrong. All your logic is circular - the Bible proves Christ's divinity, and we know the Bible is accurate because Christ said so, and he's divine.

2006-11-17 06:03:58 · answer #1 · answered by abram.kelly 4 · 2 1

I agree with you. Many have too many hang-ups over John 1:1 and don't consider the rest of the scriptures, since the bible is in harmony with each writer and book. Something to ponder for those who don't believe Jesus is the son of God:

Let’s start at the beginning. Forget everything about Jesus on earth and let’s focus in heaven. Who has superiority in Heaven? Considering that Jesus is God, then it would be Jesus. However, if we take a look at Matthew 28:18 it says something of great interest. Here Jesus has been resurrected and is speaking to his disciples before he ascends into heaven to live. Here he says to the disciples that “all authority has been given him in heaven and on the earth”. Since he said “all authority” had been given to him, then that would conclude that somebody gave him that authority. Who could that person be, if Jesus was himself God? Why would Jesus now have this authority when he should of already have had it? Let’s go to Philippians 2:9 to find this answer. It says here that “God exalted him to a superior position”. Well, if Jesus is not God, then who is this God? The bible does not leave us wondering. His very personal name is found at Psalms 83:18. Please also read these additional scriptures: Proverbs 8: 22-31; 30:4, John 20:17, 31, Acts 7:56 then Acts 17:31

Colossians 1:15-18. (Notice what the bible states about death. One is unconscious, conscious of nothing. So how can God resurrect himself if he alone is dead and had written in the bible what happens to one who dies. Is he lying about death or is Jesus really not God?)

Someone who was studying the bible had this to say: People think Jesus is God. They even pray to Jesus. But he gives so much evidence to prove wrong this theory. God Cannot Lie. When Jesus teaches people to pray, he says in Matthew 6:6 but when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. Did you catch that? Pray to the Father who is "Unseen"! If Jesus is God, how could you pray to the Father who is Unseen, if he is right there telling you to do it?

There are Bible texts that I could never fit in with that belief or with the Trinity. Such as Matt. 24:36. If the Son is equal to the Father and is the same person, how is it that the Father knows things that the Son does not? Even if it's regarding his "human nature" why does the holy spirit not know? Are not all 3 persons supposed to be 1, according to the Trinity doctrine? However, the bible does have this to say about God - He has a personal name, Psalms 83:18. Reasonably, if Jesus were God, then he would have said that he wanted people to worship him. However, instead, Jesus never claimed to be equal to God. And there’s a scripture that points this fact out. It’s found at John 14:28. I believe in Christ but not the Trinity. Notice what Simon Peter said who Jesus Christ was. Found at Matthew 16:16.

2006-11-17 14:06:51 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Matt.16:16.17;
Peter said, Thou art the Christ, the son of the living God, and Jesus said, God the Father had revealed this to Peter.
John 17:3,5,24 Jesus was with God before the world was, before Abraham John 8:58; Col.1:15-17 Rev.3:14 Jesus the first creation, created in the image of God.
God is the God of the living Matt.22:32; Jesus is Lord of the dead and the living,
Rom.14:9-12; 1Cor.15:22-28,51-53 AS IN ADAM ALL DIE, EVEN SO IN CHRIST,
SHALL ALL BE MADE ALIVE. [ In order with the heavenly for the new heavens,and the earthly for the new earth ]. John 3:13-17 No one went to heaven but Jesus until when Satan is cast down and has a short time John 6:39,40,44, 14:3; onto 1Thes.4:15-17; will takes place and in Rev.20:1-6 the heavenly first resurrected are with Jesus Rev.3:12 to come down out of [ heavenly Jerusalem the new], heavens from God to resurrect 12,13 the earthly. SATAN IS THE GOD OF THIS WORLD, HE AND IT MUST END Matt.24:3-36;
2Cor.4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Eph.2:7; 3:21 The world with Jesus is without end as all is made new Rev.21:1-5;

2006-11-17 14:08:38 · answer #3 · answered by jeni 7 · 0 0

The Bible also says we should not support the money lenders (hope you don't have a bank account)

The bible says we can keep slaves - that ok with you?

The bible says a LOT of stuff, most of it contradictory and biased ramblings of old men who are a millenia or two out of touch. Really, if they cannot agree amongst themsevles how on earth are we supposed to take anythng at face value?

It is a good book if you don't mind messed-up plots with wonky bits along the way. It is NOT written by Christ, nor even in some cases, by people living within a FEW HUNDRED YEARS of him.

Nothing to explain - other than "yeah, it's a work of fiction so what"?

2006-11-17 14:06:28 · answer #4 · answered by Mark T 6 · 0 1

There's nothing to explain. I can have someone write a book that says that I am the son of God. It doesn't mean it is so.

The stuff in the New Testament was written decades after Jesus died, if he exsited at all. It is a poor source of information about Jesus' life. The people who wrote it studied the prophecies of the Old Testament and wrote the Jesus story to complement them.

2006-11-17 13:59:47 · answer #5 · answered by nondescript 7 · 1 1

If Jesus wasn't/isn't the son of God then none of the Bible can be credible. It either has to be all true or all false. But then, as he is, I don't suppose it really matters

2006-11-17 14:14:26 · answer #6 · answered by Kari 3 · 0 0

There are any number of texts held sacred by people all over the world that say different things.

Why does the Bible get more importance than the rest? Only because people choose to give it that significance.

As a Christian, I also studied the Hebrew scriptures, including learning the language. It's clear that there are grave errors in the Gospels, at least to 'interpreting' Hebrew prophecy. That is simple fact, regardless of what you choose to believe.

2006-11-17 14:14:09 · answer #7 · answered by The angels have the phone box. 7 · 0 1

You say the bible is wrong and it's the only place that talks about Jesus. So you don't explain the bible. It's just a book.

2006-11-17 14:14:11 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The Bible was written by people and edited and reorganized by churches. People can write anything they want, it doesn't mean it is literal or true.

As for it saying that Jesus is the son of God, well, good for it. Someone can say a duck is their mother, they can write it down, and someone can find it 300 years from now - it doesn't mean a duck really is their mother.

2006-11-17 14:07:43 · answer #9 · answered by DALOmom 3 · 0 1

We have been taught that He proceeds forth from God, and in that procession He is generated; so that He is the Son of God, and is called God from unity of substance with God. For God, too, is a Spirit. Even when the ray is shot from the sun, it is still part of the parent mass; the sun will still be in the ray, because it is a ray of the sun--there is no division of substance, but merely an extension. Thus Christ is Spirit of Spirit, and God of God, as light of light is kindled. The material matrix remains entire and unimpaired, though you derive from it any number of shoots possessed of its qualities; so, too, that which has come forth out of God is at once God and the Son of God, and the two are one. In this way also, as He is Spirit of Spirit and God of God, He is made a second in manner of existence--in position, not in nature; and He did not withdraw from the original source, but went forth. This ray of God, then, as it was always foretold in ancient times, descending into a certain virgin, and made flesh in her womb, is in His birth God and man united."

Just to help all those along to better understand. God Bless

2006-11-17 14:05:17 · answer #10 · answered by Gods child 6 · 0 1

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