If you don't know about it, read this.
http://www.no2id.net/IDSchemes/FAQ/
2006-11-17 04:45:58 · 27 answers · asked by Jegis H. Corbet 4 in Politics & Government ➔ Other - Politics & Government
Forgot to mention I'm talking about the British Government.
2006-11-19 00:27:47 · update #1
IT IS NOT SECURE, The technology it will be based on has been cracked ALREADY!
It will FAIL in it's intended purpose, cost a FORTUNE and not work!
Apart from the very valid civil liberty concerns (completely reversing the relationship between citizen and state making the state the master and the citizen a tagged serf), and the idea that this means that for the first time all innocent citizens will be in effect asking for the state's permission to exist in their own country. tagged, tracked, monitored, spied on at all times.
This is a chilling trend, Government becoming more and more secretive whilst expecting the electorate to be ever more open to intrusive privacy destroying spying from the state.
Excuse me big brother state, but what I do, and who I am, and where I go, so long as it is all legal, IS NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS!!!
But even allowing for those arguments, the technology will not work and it will be a massively expensive, unethical, immoral failure.
Read the news story below. It cannot work to stop crime as it has already been hacked!
BTW to the ignorant and dangerously stupid woman who anwered above stating that any action that stops even 1 crime is worth it??? Hand yourself in to the police now, it may stop you commiting a crime! Would you approve of the police locking up everyone, as if we were all in prison already, we would not be able to commit a crime at all?
2006-11-17 11:02:10 · answer #1 · answered by kenhallonthenet 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The most emotional argument I've heard is that it heralds "the end of days" from Revelation/The Apocalypse (both those words mean the same thing, btw) - the card is the mark of the beast, however you may choose to interprtet that. Emotional arguments are like faith - you can't change someone's opinion unless they are open to debate - whether the "faith" thing is good or bad I'm not saying either way, but you can "prove" what colour an elephant is more easily than you can bring a deity to a non-believer, or vice-versa.
Will ATM machines secretly gather DNA from your fingertips so that you can be cloned? No. Will the govt be able to follow your every movement? no. Will your head explode? not because of an ID card, no.
During WWII our parents/grand parents etc carried id cards.
I don't see a reason to lose sleep over it, provided I don't have to spend a lot of money on one - I have a passport and a driving licence, both forms of photo ID - good enough for me.
2006-11-17 04:59:38 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Oh I think they should stop pretending that they want this ID card and say what they really want. Microchips in every citizen for the purpose of tracking our every movement. They can claim this card is for Id purposes and to streamline things but that is total BS. It is so this corrupt evil government can keep track over every single person and know where they are and what they do at all times. It is quite alarming how people readily accept this as a good thing. I really dont understand that at all. They are being slowly conditioned to accept more and more things and eventually who knows how far they will let this government go. Scary.
2006-11-17 04:52:56 · answer #3 · answered by Perplexed 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
America is filled with such spoiled babies. In many countries every person has to carry their passport with them at all times. Here, only about 16% of Americans even have a passport. We live in a horribly decentralized mind set where everybody gets to decide what they personally want regardless of the whole, so much that we can't even have a national id because each state wants make their own.
Really the only thing that makes us different from other countries is this ocean. It's not easy to get to our half of the earth.
2006-11-17 14:09:29 · answer #4 · answered by locusfire 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
We are the most regulated, watched, controlled nation outside North Korea and the sad bit about it is that we are agreeing to it by allowing politicians to get away with more and more things like this.
I am on more government and private computer systems than I have had hot dinners and they know more about me than I know myself.
The really sad bit is that it does nothing to combat crime or terrorism but in some ways makes it easier for the criminals who can hide behind false identities using all this info floating about. The only people inconvenienced and sometimes worse are the Innocent Joe Public who has allowed this to happen.
2006-11-17 05:13:33 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Personally I think that's one of the reasons they have allowed this illegal immigration to get so out of control. This isn't a new idea. They just know the American people won't go for it. Unless of course they make all our vital records and SS#'s useless......which they have now. Created a problem to fix so they can get the chips going.....for "our best interest" of course. Temporarily that is.....total control eventually. No.....don't like at all. As we speak.....someone, somewhere has already figured out the flaws and a way around it. Card chip first....then implants. Just to get us used to the idea.
2006-11-17 06:03:10 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
THAT'S SCAREY!! Here are some of the way's in which the government can keep track of us-ALREADY IN FORCE in this country:p60,,p45,,gas bill,,electricity bill,,mortgage arrangements,,poll tax payments,,national insurance number,,school admissions,,driving licence,,home/car/personal insurance,,child benefit/family allowance payments,,loans,,passport,,telephone bill,,web/computer networking--those are just a few items off the top of my head,i am sure there are many more way's in which we can be tracked...so why need more way's...or will the ID scheme supercede them all-with every piece of info about us on one card?...what a mess!!
2006-11-17 05:27:28 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
No. The "fiasco" as you set it replaced into and is inevitable even as such an magnificent quantity of non-public documents is compiled right into a imperative databank. the authorities gained't supply up on nationwide IDs, have self assurance me. they want to understand each and every bypass that each and each and every citizen makes. and they gained't stop their efforts to make that ensue. that's somewhat *burp*.
2016-11-25 00:42:57 · answer #8 · answered by cave 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
they can keep there i.d cards ,ill go to jail before i have one .
they seem to think it will stop terrorism but dont they realise they are letting anyone and everyone into this once good country and if you believe it or not the 7 july bombers were supposed to be british so how would an i.d card stop that ?! just another way of turning us all into bar coded slaves and having to pay for the privilege
2006-11-17 06:52:36 · answer #9 · answered by . 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
With this Government record ,anything to do with ,I. T.
computers technology who actually thinks that any system this stupid Government instigates will ever work properly (I very much doubt it ).All they are likely to achieve as usual is to waste many -many more Billions of taxpayers money .I certainly do not think that even if the technology was to work proficiently it would not cure any of the problems facing the U.K. .Its just this pathetic
Governments latest idea to control us
It will just another waste of taxpayers money .
2006-11-17 05:09:31 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋