My daughter had a sub yesterday--what do you think about this? (Details)?

Question

She's in 4th grade. Her class was scheduled to have a science test yesterday. Her teacher was sick so they had a substitute yesterday but still planned on having the science test. When my daughter came home she told me that they all went out for recess and their sub said that when they came in they were going to have their science test. Well, my daughter told me that they came inside from recess and her class was being kind of loud when they came in (like most kids are after recess). She told me that her and two of her friends were quiet when they walked in the class room and just sat down while the rest of the kids were talking and carrying on. Their sub noticed that my daughter and the other 2 girls were being well behaved and then announced to the whole class that because she and the two other girls were being quiet they got an automatic A+ on their tests and didn't have to take them. Do you think that was right of the sub to do? I somehow don't feel that was the right thing to do?

Answer 1

I think it is good that the sub pointed out that your daughter and her friend were quiet and polite, but the reward should not have been excemption from an exam, maybe something else. It's good for teachers to point out and reward good behavior (when done alone, not being asked to do so), it teaches the other children that it's better to be well-behaved. Maybe you should discuss this with the regular teacher when she returns. She may schedule a time to take the exam. On the other hand, be proud of your daughter for being so well-behaved.

Answer 2

Substitute is most likely learning the ropes and she tried rewarding good behavior with a grade they didn't earn academically.

They deserve an A+ for behaving, no doubt. Be proud of her of course. In contrast, that doesn't equal to academic development though.

I would discuss this with her teacher. Whether you decide to request this or not. If I was a parent in this situation, I would re-assign the test to my child to take and do another reward system. Whether extra time giving to take the test, 1st person to pick a game or watch video, a snack or pick something out of "goody box or treasure chest' as lots of teachers have etc.

The sub doesn't have the right to do that. It is up to the teacher to decide such actions as that as it does affect her grade book and she did not ask permission if it was ok.

I do admire the sub for allowing your daughter to know good behavior is something desire to have. But don't want your daughter to get wrong idea that being good will equal A+ or not taking a test.

Answer 3

The sub is not your child teacher and has no authority over grading anything. Maybe she was just trying to get the classes attention, but that was definately a no-no on the subs part.

I would contact your childs teacher and make sure that by her not taking the science test that she didn't actually get an incomplete or a low grade for no test being turned in.

This definately does not sound appropriate. I would notify the school.

And also I would tell your daughter how proud you are that she followed directions, but that she should have insisted on taking the test because she probably knew what was happening wasn't right.

Answer 4

Yikes! I'm a former teacher and I always hated leaving my class to a sub. Some were great but I hate having other people do my work and this is one of the reasons. I understand her wanting to reward the children who were behaving but her idea of a reward makes no sense. It would be like me seeing a man drop a dollar bill and alerting him to the fact and then him rewarding me with $100. I think this sub was trying to make a big impact but her thinking was wrong. I probably would have told them they could have free time or something after the test but the longer they took to calm down the less free time they'd have. That always works. Or she could have announced free time for those three girls after the test and made up an extra assignment for the other kids to do that those girls wouldn't have to do. But exempting them from the test doesn't jive.

Answer 5

in a way i think i would talk to her teacher about that cause that's not right at all.. That sub should have just told the kids to be quite or there goin to the office.. or she could have been like everyone that is talking and carrying on can just take there test and put there head down and let the 2 girls have free time after the test i don't think that sub had a right to just pass them on that test i bet if her teacher found out she would be mad cause kids go to school to learn not to have stuff just giving to them like an A on a test...

Answer 6

While I think it is nice that the substitute teacher noticed your daughter and her friends' good behavior and wanted to reward them for it, I think it should and could have been handled differently. It was not the substitute teacher's place to make them exempt from taking the test--that should have been their teacher's call to make.

She should have had the girls take their tests like expected, and then reported back to the teacher that they were the only ones demonstrating good behavior when everyone else was acting unruly. It would have then been up to the teacher on how to handle that and reward them once she returned. Maybe she would have given them extra credit points or something of that nature, but I don't think she would have "excused" them from taking the test.

I would have a talk with your daughter's teacher about this, to see what she thinks. I don't think it would be exactly fair to your daughter if she has to take the test now, at this point in time, because she may feel like she is being punished instead of rewarded for her good behavior, but at the same time the teacher needs to be aware of the decision that was made in her stead. This could have been a very important test. Maybe something else can be arranged? Like your daughter doing a book assignment to show she's knowledgeable on what the test covered, in addition to receiving extra credit points.

Answer 7

Your daughter probably didn't mind, but as a parent, I do see your point. I really don't agree with it. What if on that particular test your daughter or one of the other girls was having a problem with a certain thing? If she didn't have to take the test, the teacher would have never known she was having a problem, therefore, can't help her with it. Also, a lot of times when certain kids are given special priveledges, the other kids seem to resent them. I would talk to your daughters teacher when she returns and let her make the decision.

Answer 8

No I don't think that was right for the sub to do. You should talk to the regular teacher or the principal. The girls should have to do the test just like everyone else. The other students should have been punished in a different way and your daughter and the other girl should have been rewarded in another way.

Answer 9

Well being a teacher myself:what the F was that sub thinking?
Excuse me my French,but my hair stands on end.
The best thing to do is :first have that sub sinking.
Tell the regular teacher that you want your daughter to do the test again.
Nice to see them rewarded,but this is too silly.
But don't mention the other two:that's not your job:telling on others.That's the responsibility of the other parents:so don't go there.
Have a talk to all three of the girls and ask what they themselves think of what happened?And see their reactions.
They will also think that the sub stinks.Ask them if this is fair play??
They will surprise you,is my guess.
Have a nice day,you have some thinking to do,trust me.Rob.

Answer 10

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