The Jews of Jesus' Time were looking for a Deliverer King, who would drive Israel's enemy's out of Israel. Jesus came as a Suffering Servant, to show them what being God's Chosen really meant.
God's intention with Israel was for them to be a Light to the Gentile Nations, representing Him to the World. Unfortunately they failed in this. With Christ's,(Messiah's), coming the door to the Gentiles was opened.
The Church is ,"The Wild Olive Branch grafted into The Cultivated Olive Tree..." We have not replaced Israel, but we are Spiritually Israel. Israel remains The Root of Christianity.
Why did the Jews miss all the Old Testament Prophecies ? Their Leaders did not ! They KNEW who Jesus was, and rejected Him for the above reason. I have not personally counted, but I have read that there are over 700 Messianic Prophecies in The Old Testament.
Trust me. The Day is coming when Israel will recognize who their Messiah is, and turn to Him ! They will weep for Him as one weeps for one of their own children. Israel will be Saved.
2006-11-16 01:41:34
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answered by Minister 4
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The point is that they don't point to Jesus at all unless one ignores salient portions of the prophesies or fabricates meanings into them to make Jesus seem to fit.
The fact of the matter is that many of the messianic prophesies are very general and can be accomplished by anyone. Others are quite vague and can be twisted to mean almost anything. But along with those there are several that are quite clear. And one thing that is clear is that the messiah will accomplish all in his lifetime. The exact opposite of these prophesies occurred shortly after Jesus' death. Therefore, christianity had to concoct the concept of a 'double prophesy ' and a 'second coming' even though such concepts do not exist in the any of the messianic prophesies.
Learn the prophesies from the Jewish perspective and understanding that preceded Jesus by 500+ years. The claims of christianity were all developed after Jesus died (which, by the way, is a tell-tale sign that Jesus isn't the messiah).
2006-11-16 03:30:26
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answer #2
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answered by mzJakes 7
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Hi, great question.
the Old Testament is littered with signs that point to the Messiah,like the suffering servant of Isaiah as you have pointed out,but it was during the occupation of the Romans, the Jewish peoples idea of the Messiah took on a different aspect as the one that the Prophets revealed,and so the coming Messiah became one who would destroy the Romans and others hostile to the Jewish nation, this Messiah would be a warrior King with Heavenly power so that He would strike down these invaders and restore the Kingdom to Israel.
this concept was promoted by hard line Jews,i.e Zealots and became the mainstream salvific idea of the nation.
the Jewish authorities would have nothing to do with a Messiah who preached love and peace, but yet men like Joseph of Arimethia, were able to see this Jesus as fufilling the scriptures.
they could not change the scriptures to suit themselves because they would have to remove most of the Prophets as well and all the Psalms that spoke of Jesus as the Messiah, plus the followers of Jesus would have brought this to the peoples attention and caused too much fuss and scandal for them.
2006-11-16 01:45:07
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answer #3
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answered by Sentinel 7
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David Israel,
You are a Christian. I do know that you seem to have some psychological disorders and therefore may not be capable of hearing dissent. Nonetheless, I must tell you david that I think this evil and deceptive form of missionizing you are perpetrating is degrading Christianity and the good, normal christians who practice it.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ApnC4dngKeRuGKyqQldbLd_zy6IX?qid=20060723102937AA4N2eb
. It is, by definition, impossible for it to be "jewish" to believe in jesus. "Jewish" is, by defintion, what jews have historically and contemporarily believe. Since in neither scenario do we find "believing in jesus", then we must clearly realize that belief in jesus is not something "jewish". You can call it "biblical" (and still be wrong), but certainly not "jewish".
. On the side, the subject of Isaiah 53 is promised a "long life" and "seed" (i.e. physical children). Clearly this isn't about jesus.
. And Isaiah 7 is clearly not messianic if you read the whole chapter. and "alma" doesn't mean virgin either. You'd know that if you spoke hebrew (I guess learning basic hebrew wasn't part of your "extensive jewish upbringing", huh?)
. On the side, Isaiah 9 can't be about jesus since, according to christianity, he's the "son" not the "father" (as the verse states). Nor did he have control of the government (to the contrary, the roman government killed him). And he certainly did not establish "endless peace".
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Sources:
http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/jewishsociety/Why_Jews_Dont_Believe_In_Jesus.asp
http://jewsforjudaism.org/web/faq/general_messiah-criteria02.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_messiah#Textual_requirements
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oh, and lastly, I've decided that you truly epitomize everything I find intensely intellectually unsatisfying about christianity.
2006-11-16 03:31:17
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answered by Anonymous
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Christians identify Messiah with Jesus and define him as God incarnated as a man, and believe he died for the sins of humanity as a blood sacrifice. This means that one has to accept the idea that one person's death can atone for another person's sins. However, this is opposed to what the Bible says in Deuteronomy 24:26, "Every man shall be put to death for his own sin," which is also expressed in Exodus 32:30-35, and Ezekiel 18. The Christian idea of the messiah also assumes that God wants, and will accept, a human sacrifice. After all, it was either Jesus-the-god who died on the cross, or Jesus-the-human. Jews believe that God cannot die, and so all that Christians are left with in the death of Jesus on the cross, is a human sacrifice. However, in Deuteronomy 12:30-31, God calls human sacrifice an abomination, and something He hates: "for every abomination to the Eternal, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods." All human beings are sons or daughters, and any sacrifice to God of any human being would be something that God would hate. The Christian idea of the messiah consists of ideas that are UnBiblical.
2006-11-16 02:11:01
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answered by Anonymous
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i've got faith it grew to become into over 3 hundred. the significant component is that Jesus is the Messiah. yet as foretold, He grew to become into rejected via the Jews. I could trust Black Sheep dude that the JPA is out of line. An alliance between Jews and pagans, "Why?" you ask. To do exactly precisely what they're doing right here. putting down any communicate approximately Jesus divinity. a marginally un-holy alliance right here on YA. 'They' elect 22 OT prophesies that Jesus has no longer yet fulfilled. he will upon His return. They very actual overlook approximately all of the prophesies He did fulfill. that's secure to assert that He did fulfill a minimum of 163 prophesies.
2016-10-22 04:46:03
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answered by oleyar 4
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The bible is a word of God, you cannot change it. You can ignore it, you can refuse it, you can deny it. But the word of God is highly protected by Him.
One days those verses will judge people because there is no excuse. Everything is written!! Jesus said heaven & earth will dissipate but a word of mine shall not.
Jews are very honest when it comes to the sacred writings , however they deny it... Not for long my friend.. not for long... Prophecies say so
2006-11-16 01:57:46
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answered by Theresa 3
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David Israel (aliases Dalan_i, Alan_i, Prince7, ben, david_i, and so on): Where is the question besides the one you answered yourself? Are you asking a question or simply preaching your views with a rhetorical question mark thrown in, as always?
2006-11-16 01:40:34
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answered by Sweetchild Danielle 7
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I am not Jewish but I am a Christian and I pray that your people will accept Jesus for who He truely is (Messiah, Lord and Savior)
2006-11-16 01:31:15
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answered by JesusFreak 4
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If Jesus is your personal friend and savior, then they are no longer YOUR Jewish people.
Sorry.
2006-11-16 01:30:53
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answered by Anonymous
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