What don't christians understand about?

Question

The FACT that circumcision is an EVERLASTING covenent?

It can't just be for Jews coz Ishmael(he was the first son to be circumsised) was circumsised aswell as Isaac. And propably Abraham other sons by Kethura aswell!

Cumsy ninja THANK YOU! I taught that my question won't get a sensible answer!

Clumsy ninja THANK YOU! I taught that my question won't get a sensible answer!

Answer 1

I don't care what some old man says he heard G*d say. A 90 year old guy with schizophrenia that has been out in the desert sun would hear may strange things. Today can you imagine a guy about to "sacrifice" is son to G*d, the SWAT team would blow him away in a heartbeat.

Cutting on anybody for any reason is wrong and evil. Those that cut children or do other evil in the name of G*d will enjoy the hottest fires of hell.

My favorite part of Saint Paul's Letter to the Galatians is the part where he says, "I wish those agitators (for circumcision) would go the whole way and emasculate themselves." So if you preach for circumcision you can go castrate yourself and get back to us, that is what it says in my Bible.

Besides all that I am circumcised, so I am allowed to be just as belligerent as the jews and moslems are.

Answer 2

I was a roman catholic and was born in the far east and circumsicion was something that a boy had to have done. I thought about this and the reasons behind the whole necessity of getting the chop!
I am a Baptist and consider myself a Christian. I'm not religious but have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ who as it states in the Bible the bearer of our misgivings mainly our sins.
I have been a Baptist church member for the past 4-5 years and am learning more and more about the Christian faith.
Baptist by the way are christians who believe in the Gospel / Bible and that is where a lot of our faith lies.
I have never come across a passage saying that to be closer to God, you must be circumsised.( Maybe in the Old Testament ).Correct me if I am wrong on this one. There are several views by the general public or dare I say stereotypes for Christians but from a personal perspective it is not about being righteous or being better than others by the good works you do in this world but quite the opposite...........................
It's simply acknowledging that Jesus came and saved us and he will come again. Faith in having a relationship with the a saviour.
The Jews were the chosen people of God but they turned their backs on their Messiah but it is written that God will reclaim his people. There is hope.
Circumsision as a religious duty...........nah....................................

Answer 3

Their are many interpretations of this. We cannot all come up with the same meaning. Here is the stance of the Catholic Church for example.

The Circumcisers (First Century)


The Circumcision heresy may be summed up in the words of Acts 15:1: "But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brethren, ‘Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.’"

Many of the early Christians were Jews who brought to the Christian faith many of their former practices. They recognized in Jesus the Messiah predicted by the prophets and the fulfillment of the Old Testament. Because circumcision had been required in the Old Testament for membership in God’s covenant, many thought it would also be required for membership in the New Covenant that Christ had come to inaugurate. They believed one must be circumcised and keep the Mosaic law to come to Christ. In other words, one had to become a Jew to become a Christian.

But God made it clear to Peter in Acts 10 that Gentiles are acceptable to God and may be baptized and become Christians without circumcision. The same teaching was vigorously defended by Paul in his epistles to the Romans and the Galatians—to areas where the Circumcision heresy had spread.

Answer 4

What you don't understand is that this covenant was only made with the Jews. Every boy born to a Hebrew/Jewish family will be circumcised on the eighth day. But this has never been applied to Christianity, and neither does the Bible teaches it.

Answer 5

The bible is clear on this...thats why Christians believe what they do.

The Jews it was circumsision of the flesh, for the Gentile it is circumsision of the heart by the Spirit.

I believe this is in Galations or Romans, where they talk about legalism.

Thanks for listening!

David

Answer 6

Some Christians don't understand that circumcision is a sign of the covenant because they (1) don't read the Tanakh/the Old Testament that much and (2) aren't interested in Jewish culture or traditions. Also, these types of Christians don't tend to believe Israel is still the chosen people; they advocate "replacement theology," which replaces Israel with the Church in that covenant.

It's okay to be circumcised if you're a Christian; I hear it's healthy. Especially if you are a Messianic Jew, you will be paying tribute to your heritage. Circumcision does not gain you salvation; it is simply a sign of your devotion to G-d and your commitment to be set apart for Him. Paul didn't want the early Church to focus on circumcision as a requirement or factor in salvation; he wanted to emphasize Yeshua's atonement as the only way to salvation. But he himself was a practicing Jew; he didn't condemn circumcision and other practices in themselves. He just didn't want people getting all legalistic and corrupting the message of the atonement. As he said in Colossians 2:16-17: "So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Messiah."

It's true that other cultures and religions practice circumcision. However, I don't think many during Abraham's time circumcised their children. As you said, circumcision was to be a sign of the covenant for the chosen people. Just as they were set apart by G-d spiritually, they were to be set apart from the other nations physically.

P.S. I'd like to point out that there were no Jews in Abraham's time, nor his sons' time. Abraham was a Semite originally from Ur, which is located in present-day Iraq. He and his descendants were the covenant people, but were not referred to as Jews. Why? Because "Jew" is derived from "Judah," one of Abraham's great-grandsons. Judah's descendants populated southern Israel when it was split into the Northern and Southern Kingdoms. The Northern Kingdom, which held the majority of the other tribes, was conquered by the Assyrians and sent into captivity. The Southern Kingdom kept its identity; thus, many began to call the citizens "Jews"--short for Judah-ites, probably.

Wow, that was extremely long. :-) Hope that helped.

Answer 7

Yes,
and as Christians, a covenant of the heart

Answer 8

(Rom 2:25) For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.

(Rom 2:26) Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?

(Rom 2:27) And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfill the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?

(Rom 2:28) For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

(Rom 2:29) But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Answer 9

Christians believe we have a convent with God.
Our hearts are circumcised .
The blood of Jesus has created us to be the children of God.

Answer 10

I am not a jew

read the new testament

we read the old

paul, a hebrew, explains it perfectly in Romans

wake up

peace