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Where in the bible does it say that Peter was the first pope? When did people add on the extra 6 books of the Catholic Bible?
What was the first religion?
Please have scripture to back it up!!!

2006-11-15 10:55:53 · 8 answers · asked by Track need i say more 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

8 answers

+ The Catholic Bible +

The New Testament canon of the Catholic Bible and the Protestant Bible are the same.

The difference in the Old Testaments actually goes back to the time before and during Christ’s life. At this time, there was no official Jewish canon of scripture.

The Jews in Egypt translated their choices of the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek in the second century before Christ. This translation, called the Septuagint, had wide use in the Roman world because most Jews lived far from Palestine in Greek cities. Many of these Jews spoke only Greek.

The early Christian Church was born into this world. The Church, with its bilingual Jews and more and more Greek-speaking Gentiles, used the books of the Septuagint as its Bible. Remember the early Christians were just writing the documents what would become the New Testament.

After the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, with increasing persecution from the Romans and competition from the fledgling Christian Church, the Jewish leaders came together and declared its official canon of Scripture, eliminating seven books from the Septuagint.

The books removed were Tobit, Judith, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees, Wisdom (of Solomon), Sirach, and Baruch. Parts of existing books were also removed including Psalm 151 (from Psalms), parts of the Book of Esther, Susanna (from Daniel as chapter 13), and Bel and the Dragon (from Daniel as chapter 14).

The Christian Church did not follow suit but kept all the books in the Septuagint.

1500 years later, Protestants decided to change its Old Testament from the Catholic canon to the Jewish canon. The books they dropped are sometimes called the Apocrypha.

Here is a Catholic Bible website: http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/

+ The First Pope +

Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." (Matthew 16:17-19)

The Catholic Church believes the Lord made Simon alone, whom he named Peter, the "rock" of his Church. He gave him the keys of his Church and instituted him shepherd of the whole flock.

The Pope is the senior pastor of 1.1 billion Catholics, the direct successor of Simon Peter.

With love in Christ.

2006-11-15 16:24:15 · answer #1 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 1 4

The 7 books that are in the Catholic Bible are called the Apocryphal books. These books were present in the Septuagint which was (is) the Greek translation of the Scriptures that were in use during the time of Jesus and the Apostles. Protestants decides that they would not use these books even though Jesus used them but, hey Protestants are better than him huh? The books of the Maccabees even tells of the courage a woman and her children had while being tortured and killed for their Faith. It says people will talk about her and her family for all time but, I guess not if the Protestants have anything to do with it. The Bible does tell that Peter was the first Pope because it says that Jesus said "Thou art Peter (rock) and upon this rock I will build my Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail over her. This is the Catholic Faith that has been in effect ever since.

an after note: It was not St. Jerome who seperated these texts.

2006-11-15 11:06:31 · answer #2 · answered by Midge 7 · 0 1

I'll answer the one about the extra 6 books. They existed from the greek translation of Jewish scripture, but were not considered to be actually a part of the Bible. When Jerome translated the Vulgate (hebre and greek to latin) he refused to include those books with the rest of Scripture, he put them in a section apart so people could see it was not really a part of Scripture. However many editions of the Vulgate included these books mixed into the Old Testament. Then with the Reformation, the Counter Reformation arguments could not hold water without some phrases taken out of these bools. So at the Council of Trent in the 1500's, the Catholic Church declared that those books were a part of the canon of Scripture, and said that anyone who denied it would be damned (thus condemning their own St. Jerome!).

2006-11-15 11:01:33 · answer #3 · answered by Mr Ed 7 · 1 0

I think the "extra" books in the Catholic Bible were just eliminated later by some protestant groups. There have actually been many many books written which were, at different times, considered to be divinely inspired. There was a council of cardinals who decided which books to include in the Bible. I'm not sure why some of those books were taken out, but theories I've heard are that they were either theologically contradictory or redundant. Some books have been mentioned in the Old Testament which are not included but probably should be, it is widely acknowledged that there were other gospels written besides the 4 recognized ones, and many more letters were written than were accepted by the council as divinely inspired.

2006-11-15 11:04:19 · answer #4 · answered by Smiley 5 · 1 0

Because, even if there are obvious errors in them, they think the books can still be edifying in some way. The Holy Spirit confirms in my spirit where the obvious errors are. I easily discern false doctine. But I can't have the Apocryphal in my house.

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shalll abide in Him.

This is the anointing I received with the laying on of hands and gives me discernment if the book isn't inspired by the LORD God. Isn't the Lord's Book written by true prophets of the LORD God.

The Lord confirms to me in my spirit, the Bible without the apocryphal is True.

Jesus confirmed the Law and Prophets and spoke of them. Those are the books Jesus confirmed as true. By fulfilling those prophecies of Him (as the promised Messiah) also.

In Babylon there were those who wanted to pervert the True Prophetical books by adding false apocryphal. Jesus knew the true Torah and Prophets. So did the Messianic Jews of the day. Anyone born of God with the Holy Spirit can discern what are true books.

2006-11-15 11:02:29 · answer #5 · answered by t_a_m_i_l 6 · 0 0

A number of books which are part of the Greek Septuagint but are not found in the Hebrew Bible are often referred to as deutrcanonical books by Roman Catholics referring to a later secondary canonisation. These books are not deuterocanonical for Orthodox Churches because they were always canonical for them. Most Protestants term these books as apocrypha. Evangelicals and those of the Modern Protestant traditions do not accept the deutrocanonical books as canonical, although Protestant Bibles included them until around the 1820s. However the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Oriental Orthodox Churches include these books as part of their Old Testament. The Roman Catholic Church recognizes seven such books (Tobit, Judith, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus, and Baruch), as well as some passages in Esther and Daniel. Various Orthodox Churches include a few others, typically 3 Maccabees, Psalm 151, 1 Esdras, Odes, Psalms of Solomon, and occasionally 4 Maccabees.



The Roman Catholic Church or Catholic Church is the Christian Church in full communion with the Bishop of Rome, currently Pope Benedict XVI. It traces its origins to the original Christian community founded by Jesus, with its traditions first established by the Twelve Apostles and maintained through unbroken Apostolic Succession.
The Church traces its institution to Jesus and the Twelve Apostles, in particular Saint Peter, the leader of the Apostles, who is regarded as the first Pope. The first known use of the term "Catholic Church" was in a letter by Ignatius of Antioch in 107, who wrote: "Where the bishop appears, there let the people be, just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."
Central to the doctrines of the Catholic Church is Apostolic Succession, the belief that the bishops are the spiritual successors of the original twelve apostles, through the historically unbroken chain of consecration . The New Testament contains warnings against teachings considered to be only masquerading as Christianity, and shows how reference was made to the leaders of the Church to decide what was true doctrine. The Catholic Church teaches that it is the continuation of those who remained faithful to the apostolic and episcopal leadership and rejected false teachings.

Gospel According to Saint Matthew
Chapter 16

16 Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answering, said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

2006-11-19 08:32:19 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

i cant answer for sure ..
but my feeling on it is that Catholics didnt add anything ... but more was taken out of other bibles
so many scriptures were not included when they decided which ones would go in and which wouldnt

2006-11-15 10:59:13 · answer #7 · answered by Peace 7 · 0 1

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2006-11-15 11:06:23 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

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