I need to know in what order do these characters go.
2006-11-15 10:43:24 · 8 answers · asked by linda1774@sbcglobal.net 1 in Arts & Humanities ➔ Genealogy
"Sr" and "Jr" are usually used for fathers and sons named after them. They can be used for a man and his nephew, if they live in the same county. If you had three in a row, as soon as the oldest died the next oldest becomes "Senior" if you want to be correct. They are supposed to be informal and transitory.
"I", "II", "III" (and "XVI", for that matter, when you are tracking Louis the King of France) are more formal and permanent. King George III will always be that one, even though he has been dead for almost 200 years.
It is considered presumptuous to name someone "I" before "II" is born; the king of Spain is manking a heck of a leap of faith, in th eeyes of some people, by calling himself "Juan Carlos I". For all he knows, the people will rise and repalce him with a socialist prime minister.
If I'm writing to someone about thre eor for people with the same name I call them "1776 John Smith", "1803 John Smith" and so forth, where the year is the birth year.
If you put "I", "II" or "III" on anyone who isn't royal, you can guarantee you'll break through your brick wall, find his dad and realize the one you thought was "Peter Moss I" was really "Pete Moss IV", and you'll have to renumber them all. I don't put "Sr", "Jr" or any roman numerals on anyone save royalty when I'm entering individuals.
Others do; it is a matter of choice. If any of your lines are Scots, where is was a state law to name at least one or two sons "Alexander", you'll need all the help you can get. I've seen people who put birth years in where the middle name goes.
2006-11-15 11:00:10 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
You are correct but there are a couple things to remember. In the US, if the grandfather is "Sr" it is socially incorrect to label his son "II" (the second). The son should always be labeled "Jr". A man would be labeled "II" only if he is named after his grandfather, uncle or cousin, not his father.
Also, keep in mind that some men change the name suffix when the oldest man in the line dies. Some people say this can't be done but it happens. If there are three men with the same name and the first man named Sr. dies, his son may choose to become "Sr". It can happen when the grandfather dies before the grandson is born. The grandson is then named "Jr" even though he is actually the third. My father was born with the suffix "III" even though he is actually the fourth man in a row with his name. Again, I'm not sure if this is acceptable but it does happen.
2006-11-15 23:06:55 · answer #2 · answered by Pico 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I understood it to be the grandfather (to be understood as having) just his name....then his son would have II after his name only if the name is exactly the same (including middle name if any), and then that man's son would have the III after his name (again, if the name is exactly the same). Yes, the II and III are kind of like a title and that stays with their name (while the Jr/Sr does not).
You might want to check into the history of that person as the grandfather may not be the the first in line to have that name.\
On the other hand, Sr. and Jr. are are different and are just distinguishing names in a household, and the 3rd person in line just uses his own name name without an ending....but by the time that child starts to grow the Jr. also drops his Jr. distinguishing ending as he could be retired by then and calling himself junior might be a little embarassing.
2006-11-15 14:31:33 · answer #3 · answered by sophieb 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yep, You've got it...
Charles Darwin Sr. (or simply Charles Darwin, the "Sr." isn't necessary) is the father of Charles Darwin Jr., and the grandfather of Charles Darwin III.
2006-11-15 10:49:46 · answer #4 · answered by Traviesa 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
My grandfather was Senior, My Dad's has the same exact name and he was Junior, my brother has the same exact name and he is third. How simple do you want me to make it. Sr, Jr. 3rd or III.
2006-11-15 10:47:35 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
If they have the exact same names except Sr, Jr, III, IV, etc
2006-11-15 10:48:51 · answer #6 · answered by Boogerman 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
you got it correct... Gary Marshal, Sr. and then Gary Marshal, Jr (or you can put II) and say, "the second", and then Gary Marshal, III and he would be the third. I don't know a gary marshal... I made it up.
2006-11-15 10:46:50 · answer #7 · answered by tampico 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yeah you got it
2006-11-16 16:13:11 · answer #8 · answered by Mike J 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋