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So, it's always an ongoing debate between Atheists (including myself) and, well, everyone else (mainly Christians) on who gets "bashed" the most.

I have said it is equal on both parts many times. However, today I read a new question that just got posted not to long ago that literally made me sick to my stomach. I am a very strong, open-minded person that normally doesn't take things personally, but this person took something that is still a sore subject, and used it against Atheists. I teared up I was so angry.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ArN1fDhgdJgEeA_CYMRp72nzy6IX?qid=20061115103517AADrzu0

So tell me, everyone...Christians and Atheists, Buddhists and Wiccans, Jews and Mormons....

Is this taking things WAY too far?

Have we finally crossed the line into gross hatred?

Are we using things that have affected thousands, even millions, of people to hurt each other!?!?

Ugh...I'm going to go get sick now.

2006-11-15 05:52:21 · 20 answers · asked by Heck if I know! 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I think I just took it so personally because I had my friends down there. One of my good friends is a firefighter, and he was shot at while I was on the phone with him by some looters.

I also had two friends living with me for 3 months, and for the first week, they couldn't eat, sleep...nothing.

It's not even the attack on Atheism as much as the lack of human compassion and decency that he has.

I wanted to, well, complain about it because I wanted people to see how ignorant other people can be.

2006-11-15 06:02:13 · update #1

Ugh...mscarlet...no.

I know this, I'm not dumb, and I didn't mean it that way. Please don't turn my words around.

2006-11-15 06:25:46 · update #2

20 answers

Youre an atheist. Use your head. Dont allow someone else's immaturity and misunderstanding of who really helped out the victims of Katrina upset you so much! The guy was obviously looking to enflame some atheists - and his trick worked on you!! Dont fall for that crap! you're a better person than that!!

Truth is, the Red Cross was the largest contributor - and they are non-denonminational. So, that guy is completely ignorant - and you let him affect your mood? Youre better than that!

2006-11-15 06:03:23 · answer #1 · answered by YDoncha_Blowme 6 · 4 1

You automatically assume the rest of us will be "ignorant" also?? Well, thank you very much. N.O. wasn't the only place devastated by Katrina you know. They just whined the loudest. Put the blame where it really belongs sweetheart, in the laps of Nagin and Blanco. We were the worst hit county besides the Gulf Coast in MS. We didn't sit around and wait for someone to come dig us out. We got chainsaws, tractors, shovels etc. and dug ourselves out. This guy is an idiot. Christians don't truly feel like he does. He is trying to elicit just the response he got from you. We know that people from all walks of life helped after this catastrophe, don't think that we (the victims) are so pompous as to believe that the only people that cared for us in our time of need were the conservative Republicans. We know that atheist, agnostics, Democrats,Libertarians, many people from all walks of life helped us. We appreciate them all. I will tell you one thing, if we don't get back to people being people and quit all this devision, "I'm right, you're stupid because you don't believe like I do" crap we(as a country) are going to have some real problems later.
So, don't let idiot's make you stress, and don't assume everyone else who is a Christian is an idiot because of what this nut job says.
Also, your friend was shot at when he was trying to help because a storm like this one brings out the worst in the citizens of the cities it hits as well as the best. Unfortunately with the media like it is today we hear more about the bad than the good.

2006-11-15 14:22:08 · answer #2 · answered by Only hell mama ever raised 6 · 2 1

I think you may be overly sensitive - and rightly so - because this directly affected you.

I don't think it's the most disgusting comment I've ever seen. I think it's just more examples of the kinds of blind ignorance prevailing in Christianity these days. "Oh we do such great things! Oh we help so many people!" Yes, they often do, but it's often at a price. I know people who have found themselves homeless and refused to go to the Salvation Army for help because the Salvation Army insists that you attend their Bible meetings if you're taking refuge with them. I had a coworker who went down with her church to help rebuild back in February, and when she came back she was talking about how they'd gone down there and were helping all these people and (this is a quote) "Bringing God to them". From everything she said, they had partnered with a church down there and were rebuilding homes of people who belonged to that church, not just anyone. I also felt very uncomfortable helping Habitat for Humanity last year because they required everyone to get into a circle and pray before they started building.

Take a deep breath and try to ignore these kinds of idiots. I know it's hard. And I'm very, very sorry for what you and your friends have had to go through.

Blessed be.

)O(

2006-11-15 14:05:51 · answer #3 · answered by wyvern1313 4 · 1 0

It is hurtful to me as a person affected by Katrina and as a Buddhist. This is low to say something like this. And I am having a bad day here on the Mississippi Gulf Coast because a bad storm has been going on since last night and I am very very anxious. I come on here to distract myself and see this question. This person deserves an award for worst taste yet!

2006-11-15 14:05:37 · answer #4 · answered by a_delphic_oracle 6 · 2 0

We crossed the line when we first started bashing each other. No one should be bashed because of what they believe and have the right to be heard. Because you don't agree that it is right doesn't mean that it isn't, it simply means it is not right for u. I am sorry that stuff is going on, and it is literally appalling. We were given free will to do or believe what is right for us, and I wish more people were open-minded to other faiths. We should try to understand each other, and accept that their faiths are different from ours. The bashing has gone on long enough. Just remember these simple statements and think about them before we speak about others beliefs (that we have no clue about):

1. One man's heaven is another man's hell.

2. Judge not lest ye be judge.

3. Love thy neighbor as thy self.

*4. DO UNTO OTHERS AS U HAVE THEM DO UNTO U.*

Please no more bashing, lets behave like mature people and not two years olds.

2006-11-15 14:05:14 · answer #5 · answered by Alternative Chick 4 · 2 0

Agreed. A pathetic attempt at an argument in favor of religion. If one were so inclined to sink to such a level and respond to this person's argument...one could simply point out that, if God controls all things, then he/she was to blame for Katrina in the first place, so it is only natural that his followers be responsible to make things right.

However, his whole premise is BS, because the Red Cross provided most of the support, and they are not a religious organization. One could go one step further and blame "religion" in general for most of the murderous wars that are occuring as we speak.

As far as "atheist organizations", I'm unaware of any atheist organizations that murder those who don't subscribe to their beliefs, but there are countless "religious organizations" that do.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-religion. Religion has long served a noble purpose, as it provides reasons (however questionable) for people to be good to one another. Although, to hide behind religion to claim that anything you speak is the truth, well that is just anti-religious in the first place.

2006-11-15 14:02:12 · answer #6 · answered by Kevin P 3 · 3 0

I think mass orgainised religion is the root cause of most of what is wrong in the world. So in some respects I'm not surprised someone else feels in a simialr way.

However, I do totally agree that using the Katrina disaster to make such a point is very wrong and he should feel ashamed.

However, by posting this question you are giving more audience to his point and doing more damage on top of the damage already done. It's best to ignore his type and let him fade away into the hole he crawled out of.

2006-11-15 13:55:56 · answer #7 · answered by rchlbsxy2 5 · 3 1

Maybe I'm becoming immune to these things.

All I know is that no charity I give to, from the Red Cross, Goodwill and the City Mission, to UNICEF, the United Way and the foundation I sponsor a child through has EVER turned down my money because I am atheist.

My dough does as much good as anyone else's.

.

2006-11-15 13:57:42 · answer #8 · answered by Chickyn in a Handbasket 6 · 5 0

Well, if it's any consolation to you, "Paulywog" is dead wrong in his assumption. The truth is, the Canadian Armed Forces were first on the scene as well as Air Canada and West Jet airlines. Here are some interesting facts for you from Wikipedia...

Canada's first response to the disaster inflicted by Hurricane Katrina along the Gulf of Mexico coastline of the United States was the deployment of a Vancouver heavy urban search and rescue team, which arrived in Lafayette, Louisiana on the evening of August 31, 2005, arriving on a WestJet Airlines aircraft. Due to security and logistics issues in the disaster area surrounding New Orleans, the team started operations on September 3, saving 30 people that day. They returned to Vancouver on September 6, reportedly saving over 110 people during their deployment. It has also accepted some evacuees to stay in Canada.

The official response by the Government of Canada to the Gulf coast disaster came on September 2, following discussions between Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Canada and the U.S. Federal Emergency Management Agency. The federal government announced it was deploying a task force comprising three warships—HMCS Athabaskan, HMCS Toronto and HMCS Ville de Québec—along with the Coast Guard vessel CCGS Sir William Alexander and three Sea King helicopters and one BO-105 helicopter to the area.

The Canadian Forces also provided several Griffon helicopters and crews to the New England States at the request of the United States Coast Guard whose search and rescue helicopters from that area have been assigned to Gulf Coast SAR operations. Canadian aircraft will also be deployed as part of a NAFTA military assistance pact."

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Hydro Quebec, Ontario Hydro and Manitoba Hydro sent down teams to help restore power and there was the humanitarian relief effort put in place which received thousands of blankets and other necessities for the victims of Katrina from the Canadian general public. That being the case...

It is stupid and ignorant beyond belief to assume that our effort to help the victims of Katrina were done solely by Canadian Christians. We are a multicultural nation with the relief effort being supported by ALL!

So relax, my friend. To quote Forest Gump, "Stupid is as stupid does," and our "Paulywog" definitely fits that ignorant, arrogant bill!

2006-11-15 14:09:17 · answer #9 · answered by gjstoryteller 5 · 2 0

Well i can see why this might have upset you, but keep in mind that not all Christians are as judgemental as others. To be honest with you it doesn't matter to me who helps as long as they get the help they need.

As far as bashing each other, comments that some Christians make are not drawing anyone closer to God but driving them farther away. As a Christian it's hard for me to understand people holding hatred in their hearts toward anyone.


God bless

2006-11-15 14:00:54 · answer #10 · answered by believer26 3 · 2 0

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