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Based on logic alone, can we conclude that there is no God? or that it's impossible to know if there is or not?
Or if you believe logically there must be a God, how does faith play in?

2006-11-15 04:58:43 · 44 answers · asked by Eleventy 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Threre's no proof either way, so it's all about faith.

but acknowledging it's not 100% known is the wisest answer IMHO.

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2006-11-15 05:00:48 · answer #1 · answered by holy_flush 1 · 7 8

Logically there is no God?

Based on logic alone, can we conclude that there is no God?
>Based on logic alone, i don't believe so...

or that it's impossible to know if there is or not?
>but no, nothing is impossible...

Or if you believe logically there must be a God, how does faith play in?

>For some people, they do become convinced that there MUST be a God--A Creator, Originator, Designer (logically and because of years of studying their field of study such as physics, biology, nature, astronomy or the cosmos). Now once they do become convinced that there must be a God, they now go out & seek that God and that is where faith comes into play.

Now for some people they first had faith that there IS a God (through their theology) and when their faith becomes tested, that is when they study whether what they believe in can hold water... For some they become convinced that there is NO God, some become Agnostics, some really become even more convinced that there IS and MUST be a God. (And some do get converted to another faith or belief systems through whatever motivation)

2006-11-15 05:18:28 · answer #2 · answered by 4x4 4 · 1 2

Eleven, very interesting concept and, as a basically logical person, one I have pondered myself even though I am Christian.

One day I was sitting outside watching my squirrels (I feed them) and the grass was just turning green and the dandelions were coming up and the trees were budding. Suddenly I thought about all that was happening around me and how everything worked so perfectly together to support new life. I knew then, as now, that there was a scientific explanation for it all, but at the same time I thought of the coincidences and how everything just happens as it should when it should and it occurred to me, something very powerful had to have set this life in place, for no small mind could possibly have planned it.

I am big on the simpliest answer being the most likely one and also that something that happens over twice is never a coincidence...those things have nothing to do with my faith, just things I have bumped over in life.

Then it occurred to me, no matter when or how it happened, God had to be behind the plan. Whether we all banged here at some point, or we evolved from other creatures, someone had to set it in motion and the only one who could have was God. (I refuse to use the word intelligent design even if I am from OZ).

So, logical or not, the totality of life proves to ME that God exists, has always existed and will always exist.

Now...for the faith part. Whether its God or your best friend, you believe in people and trust people through faith. No one proves to you that you can, you just must. I ask no one to prove to me there is a God, or there is not a God, I just have FAITH that he is there. And that is where Faith comes in. I can read all that's written on a Yahoo website, watch documentaries on History channel...whatever...and I am still going to believe in God.

For me, that is total freedom.

2006-11-15 05:19:47 · answer #3 · answered by Dust in the Wind 7 · 3 1

Science is continually proving that there most have been an intellegent designer due to the complexity of the universe. There are far to many variable and complexities within those variables to have been established by chance. For example think about all the factors that make up our gravity. The composition ot the earth itself, the earths core, the sun, the moon ect. If any of these items were to be changed the result would be the end of life on earth. The ability for all these complex states to exist in conjuction with each other to maintain our gravity could not have happened by chance. It was designed. Take a look at the book "The Case for a Creator" by Lee Strobel. It's a great book for taking a scientific look at the creator issue.

2006-11-15 05:52:35 · answer #4 · answered by Rick D 4 · 2 0

Most believe in balance and order.
Everything has it's corresponding opposite:
- Light/dark
- Up/down
- Love/hate etc etc

So, if you believe this, then what of Evil? True evil, not lies or cheating, but real black-hearted, scare you to death Charles Manson, Hitler Evil. The opposite of Evil isn't Good, it's Holy.
Holy in that blessings are bestowed, acts are committed without reward, deeds are done "just because" .. it's acting in such a way that Evil has no response but submission.

What could do that ? What can make Evil back down?

In my example: Hitler didn't get killed, he committed suicide. Why? Why wasn't he as self-righteous as Saddam Hussein is? Everyone knows Hitler was a passionate and compelling speaker/author. What failed him..or who? I say Satan got what he wanted and cut him loose; the Great Deceiver that he is.

You can't fight or yell Evil down. This is proven when we've all seen this idiocy displayed at abortion clinics everywhere. No one is winning there on either side with all of the yelling etc.

So if positive has negative, true has false, small has big etc etc
then logic dictates that there IS a force just as pervasive and powerful as Evil; moreso because it derives it's power from FAITH and not the 7 Deadly Sins like Evil does.

Like light vanquishes darkness..the presence of something versus the absense of everything.

I hope this helps you out.

2006-11-15 10:08:39 · answer #5 · answered by mcm5274 2 · 0 0

Logically there is; let's not evan talk about all the other stuff like evolution and darwinism and dinosours and stuff.

Let's go sraight to the supposed Big Bang. If correct, who or what started the big bang? Dont tell me about no materials and gravity and stuff like that; cuase then you have to explain where the materials and processes came from. And the only LOGICAL answer is God who said to Moses I AM that A I Am or I Am I Am.
Meaning he always was, always is, and always will be. He the only one there that could of LOGICALLY started everything and put it in motion.

As far as faith; faith comes in when we want or need something from God. We have to believe He can do what we're asking for.

Hebrews 11:5 & 6

But without faith it is impossible to please God.

He that comes to God, must believe that He is, and that He the rewarder of them that dilegently seek.






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2006-11-15 05:10:13 · answer #6 · answered by Maurice H 6 · 4 1

"Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1 So, you have to have Faith to believe that there is a God, because he's not directly seen. As for the evidence; take a deep breath, think about the miraculous workings of your own body, look around you at all the wonders of his handy work. These things are your evidence. It would take a LOT more faith to believe that all these things just happened. How can anyone believe that the fantastic workings of the human body came about all by itself from a single celled organism? It is impossible to truly believe that there is not a superior being in control of the universe and everything in it.

2006-11-15 05:50:26 · answer #7 · answered by Angel L 3 · 2 1

If God does not exist, then what is right and what is wrong?
If it is a matter of Opinion, who?
If it is decided by society, how?
Take both questions all the way to the Beginning of recorded human history and answer.
If God does not exist, then how can we logically conclude that the Universe "Just came into existance" from "nothingness"
How did the something come from the nothing,? with testable evidence, (Not theory) that I can test and examine in my hands?
Answer: You cannot, without fabricating the evidence.
Face it. God exists, accept it, because no evidence to the contrary will be accepted irregardless of how much credibility the world assigns to it.

2006-11-15 05:09:24 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Nothing can COME from nothing. Yet the Big Bang happened. What caused it? Intelligence and emotion are independent of physicality. NDE's and OBE's prove this. The Bible provides documentation which is verified by science that SOMETHING beyond space and time has been interfering in earthly affairs. One can therefore logically draw the conclusion that there is indeed a God, and that He is interested in our affairs.

Deal with it.

2006-11-15 05:17:00 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Based on logic alone, we can conclude anything, given the right premises.
Logic leads us to dilemmas such as the follwing:
God must exist, for anything to exist, there must be a maker. But then, who made God?
Faith is the means by which we decide what our premises are.

2006-11-15 05:25:37 · answer #10 · answered by areyesram 5 · 4 1

God, in the Bible, commends us and encourages us to use our brains by looking at all available evidence. If you do that then logically you'd have your answer. Faith becomes involved in accepting God's commands and His Son Jesus Christ. Faith is a muscle which requires regular exercise or it becomes atrophied. If you were given plenty of credible, verifiable evidence in support of the Bible, would you actually read it? Would you read it with an open mind? Forget your natural bias against the Bible and a few hypocritical Christians? No one can make the absolute claim,"There is no God". That's because no one is omniscient, thus can't possibly know anything about anything outside of their limited realm of knowledge. Below are excellent resources -again- for you to find and read. They merely contain verifiable, credible evidence in support of the Bible. If you truly want logical and thorough answers to your questions, look them up and read them, all the way through. If not, then it would appear to be an illogical act, wouldn't it?
Allow me to use a parable to explain better.
You walk into a room and see a chair. It has four legs, is made of any ordinary wood and has a back. Nothing special, just a chair. Did that chair just ooze up out of the wooden floor all by itself and appear? Or did someone make that chair? Obviously someone made it. Do you know who made it? Chances are you do not, and for the sake of arguement in this case you don't
Do you know if the builder of this chair is a qualified carpenter who knew what he/she was doing when building that chair? Again, no. Do you even know if the builder was impaired when building that chair? No
Chances are you wouldn't care about any of that. Even if you knew the answers to those questions you probably still wouldn't care, or even ask the questions in the first place.You see that the chair looks to be made out of a strong wood and doesnt have any obvious defects, including splinters. Based on all available evidence it's logical to assume it's a chair, right? It's also logical to assume the builder was competent and built the chair without defects, right?
Here's where faith comes in
Not knowing very much about the builder of the chair, if anything, you excercise your faith that it isn't defective and won't collapse under your weight by sitting on it.

2006-11-15 05:20:13 · answer #11 · answered by utuseclocal483 5 · 2 1

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