Hitler (Christian)
Millions of Jewish victims of the Holocaust (Jewish)
Athiest Heroes of 9/11 (Athiest)
Innocent victims of 9/11 (Non-Christian)
Innocent victims of 9/11 (Christian)
Jeffery Dahmer - serial Killer (Christian)
His victims (non-Christian)
Non christian American Soldiers who dies in Iraq (non-Christian)
Muslim victims of suicide Bombings (non-Christian)
Do you really think all Christians are in heaven and all non christians are in hell? If so, do you wonder if your religion got this (unanswerable) question wrong?
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2006-11-15 04:58:29 · 23 answers · asked by holy_flush 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
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2006-11-15 05:04:52 · answer #1 · answered by Chris J 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Hitler (Christian) [Actually, Hitler was a very bad Catholic, not a Christian]
hell
Millions of Jewish victims of the Holocaust (Jewish)
hell
Atheist Heroes of 9/11 (Atheist)
hell
Innocent victims of 9/11 (Non-Christian)
hell
Innocent victims of 9/11 (Christian)
heaven
Jeffery Dahmer - serial Killer (Christian)
heaven, he got saved in prison
His victims (non-Christian)
hell
??? Entry into heaven is not based upon goodness or badness.
It is based on whether or not someone accepts Jesus as their Savior.
Since heaven and hell are concepts we learn about because of the Bible, then it will also be the Bible that gives us the qualifications for entry.
"No one comes to the Father except by Me" Jesus said.
Your problem is apparently not with mankind, nor with the Bible, but with Jesus Himself.
Non christian American Soldiers who dies in Iraq (non-Christian)
Muslim victims of suicide Bombings (non-Christian)
2006-11-15 05:09:37 · answer #2 · answered by Bob L 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hitler (Christian)
Hell
Millions of Jewish victims of the Holocaust (Jewish)
Heaven
Athiest Heroes of 9/11 (Athiest)
Heaven (or Purgatory)
Innocent victims of 9/11 (Non-Christian)
Depends on what they did in life. For all we know, one of these innocent victims was a child molestor.
Innocent victims of 9/11 (Christian)
Again, depends on what they did in life
Jeffery Dahmer - serial Killer (Christian)
Roasty-toasty!
His victims (non-Christian)
Depdends on what they did life, most likely Purgatory
Non christian American Soldiers who dies in Iraq (non-Christian)
Depends on what they did in life
Muslim victims of suicide Bombings (non-Christian)
HOnestly, for willingly killing innocent people and the actual plan of destruction, Hell. NOt because they are Muslim
I've noticed some of your answers on this board, You seem to hate Christians and designed this question to make it look like there are only bad Christians. Well, where do you think good Christians go?
And it all depends on the religion answering. I"m CAtholic. We have Purgatory, where 99% of souls go because we aren't good enough for heaven yet, and we aren't the evil scum that you think we are to go to hell. Most of the people on your list, I believe, are in Purgatory, waiting judgement and praying off their sins.
Next time you make a list, try putting soem good Christians on it and be fair. Instead of being very biased.
2006-11-15 05:10:00 · answer #3 · answered by sister steph 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Are you implying that the way someone dies or at whom's hand he dies makes a difference in where they will spend eternity? We all die. 150,000 people die everyday. We will all have to face it.
This is only unanswerable in the sense that we can never know one's relationship with God. Only the individual and God can know. But you can read the Bible and it will tell you what will happen to those depending on which side they are on.
Any of them who have repented and put their trust in Christ to save them according to the Bible will be saved (which would technically not make the the atheist an atheist).
You paint a broad picture of what a Christian is when you lable someone as such. It is not what they proclaim to be, nor are they what others see them as.
It doesn't matter if someone kills or not. If they did not kill anyone they would still be in trouble because the Bible also states that "all liars will have their part in the lake of fire". You are using your own standard of goodness when God's standard, the 10 Commandments will be used against us. And we have all broken them.
I do have a question though that ties in to the atheist element of your question. If someone continues to deny God and not submit to Him in this life (whether atheist or faith in something other than the God of the Bible), why would God "force" them to be in Heaven with Him. If they don't want him this side of life, why would they want to be with him after?
2006-11-15 05:19:44 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
We just don't know the answers to these questions. And here is even more controversy. In the early church there were a few people like Hitler, who persecuted the Christians, and one Saint prayed for this oppressor. God allowed him to leave hades because of this. So, the prayers can affect even beyond the grave. That said, some have said, like Abba Dorotheos of Gaza. that hell is exactly the same as heaven, though if you put yourself in a place of hating God, being in His presence would be hellish. Also, if you put your spirit so connected to your body and the passions, and all of a sudden you die, and you have no other life, then you would be without a body, and a spirit that longs for the flesh and not able to be fleshly, would be hell. That is why we need to war against the passions, and attach ourselves to God, so when we die, we can actually handle it.
Some talk about how you are tested by demons on your way to heaven.
I believe that God is merciful, and that He knows what is best for all of us, and that process of finding God, can go beyond the grave. The church has always prayed for the ones who have gone before. Perpetua who was martyred in 203 prayed for her brother who died years before without knowledge of Jesus Christ.
2006-11-15 05:29:47 · answer #5 · answered by Felicitas 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
First of all, Adolf Hitler wasn't Christian. Hitler abandoned his Christian beliefs in favour of divination & the occult.
I personally believe that he is in Hell for his evil crimes.
I also believe that most of the people who perished during the Holocaust are in Heaven.
I pray for all the souls who died during 9/11/01(Only Our Heavenly Father Knows their actual fates).
What makes you think that a)Jeffery Dahmer was Christian & that b)his victims were non-Christian?
I know for a certain fact that the girls who were murdered by Paul Bernardo & Karla Homolka were Christian, but, Bernardo himself was an agnostic(don't know what K. Homolka was, though 1 of the murder victims was her own sister!). Anyway, both Bernardo & K. Homolka are still alive, so there is still hope for both of their immortal souls.
2006-11-15 05:19:51 · answer #6 · answered by clusium1971 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Bible teaches that those who do not confess Jesus as their Lord and savior will not be saved. Unfortunately many great people how have chosen not to believe will not end up in heaven. This is true, only if you believe the Bible is true. If parts of the Bible are found untrue, then what parts can you believe and what part aren't true. People have been trying for years to prove the Bible is inaccurate. Archeologist and historians however and been doing nothing but proving the Bibles accuracy and historic authenticity. If the Bible can not be proven wrong, then you have to believe that it is true and that only followers of Christ will be in heaven.
I guess we'll all find out at the end. If I'm wrong, I'll likely never find out because I'd just cease to exist. If your wrong you'll be spending an eternity , tormented in hell. How has more to lose if their wrong?
2006-11-15 06:01:25 · answer #7 · answered by Rick D 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The Muslim victims are in Heaven. Jeffery Dahmer, Hitler(Jew), are in Hell. No idea bout the others.
2006-11-15 06:04:52 · answer #8 · answered by baddrose268 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Just because some one claims to be Christian doesn't make it so.
Hitler was not, Dahmer was not, ect.
According to history, the Roman church has murdered more true Christians than any other group ( appx 50 million ) and yet they call themselves Christian.
2006-11-15 05:22:55 · answer #9 · answered by G3 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
First off, for the sake of arguement, not all who profess to be a certain religion actually follow it.
Second off, i think all are in heaven. In church, they always tell those stories of, "YOu will go to heaven and be shocked that this person is there and that person isnt" (Bull, but for arguement sake)
You would not be one least bit surprised if Mother Teresea (sp) was in heaven. But if God had so much grace and love that Hitler was in heaven, you would be shocked. "The first shall be last and the last shall be first" Why do we think His grace stops extending after we die on this earth? He doesnt say it does. Anyway. This is a no win question and I dont think you are really trying to ask as much as get your point across. So I will stop answering now.
2006-11-15 05:03:20 · answer #10 · answered by Mo 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No one on earth knows who's in Heaven and who's not. That's not for us to decide or even guess upon.
Since you're asking, in doesn't matter if you're an innocent victim of any situation. Going to Heaven is judged by whether or not you accepted Jesus as your Savior, and lived your life according to the Bible.
2006-11-15 05:06:47 · answer #11 · answered by seeya 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋