I am an atheist, but I'd rather hang out with a polite Christian than an obnoxious bigot like you. You are making illogical, blanket statements about people you don't even know.
Just because a priest has no religion doesn't mean he's not a human being with skills and gifts to offer. In college, I took a Sociology course taught by a priest, and he never once mentioned anything religious. He was one of the best teachers I ever had.
You sound like you have a lot of growing up to do. Try experiencing a little more life before you pigeonhole an entire group of people.
(By the way, before you denigrate someones intelligence take a look at your own. Based on your third grade grammar and spelling, it looks like you yourself have a below average I.Q.)
2006-11-14 20:07:28
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answered by Anonymous
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I really hate to say it, but the more I spend time around religious fundamentalists, the more I agree with you. I wish I could say that all viewpoints are equal, but thats just not true. I think you shouldn't be so harsh, and there really are some intelligent religious people out there, but they are really outweighed by the majority. If you ever have a discussion about evolution or philosophy or science with most of them, you come to realize that they really don't make good points. I live in Florida and we have a lot of very conservative, very religious people here. I went to college in an especially conservative part of the state, and had many for roomates too. I had some tell me flat out that they didn't want to hear opinions different from theirs. Most would talk about things, but knew hardly anything about any of the views they criticized. Its really sad, but its true.
I think that fundamental, literal view of religion which insists on absolute authority telling an absolute truth which is not to be questioned or understood, just obeyed, is not compatible with the critical thinking and reflection that constitute an intelligent well-rounded person. But I don't think all religion can be thrown out with that. Mystical and rational interpretations of religion do not drown out the intellect like fundamentalist, literal interpretations do.
brainless: no, it doesn't seem logical that morality profits more than evil, and if it did, would acting moral really be moral or just selfish? You cannot prove or disprove God empirically. Rationally it is possible and there are no good grounds to discount that possibility. I think the existence of suffering in animals disproves the Christian God. And what if your religion is a lie, and conservative Islam (assuming you are Christian) is true and you spend eternity in hell for your belief? Pascal's wager doesn't work when there are multiple religions.
uglyirish.: I think you're mistaken about how nonbelievers see the world. You say, "I think everyone is born with the understanding that there is something bigger out there" after you ask how it is that nonbelievers can value life. Thats just it! We value this world! We think that this world is so amazing and that the existence of life is so awe-inspiring that positing the existence of things "out there" to make this world seem special is not only unnecessary but blinds you to how fantastic the mere fact of this existence is! Take the time to look at something and just think about how amazing it is that that thing exists. That thing in itself is so wonderful, why even talk about things "out there"? I feel that most religious people cheapen this world by assuming that it is so worthless that it is only valuable if there is some supernatural side of it.
2006-11-14 17:22:23
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answered by student_of_life 6
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This criticism has a kernel of truth in it. In the crucible of life, especially in dire straights, we need real answers, not doctrinal discourses. I know that from personal experience some of the most difficult people to deal with have been church going Christians. I find real genuine people outside the church. A woman told me that she had revered her female Sunday school teacher because she was so godly. However, her little boy got cancer and the teacher began to question God. The woman told me that she lost respect for her teacher. I told her that anyone going through something like that would question God. I told her this woman needs people who care and empathize, not people who judge. I rebuked that woman because she was so hard hearted in her religious zeal. Besides, I don't really believe you can be a real genuine mature Christian who is kind to folks until you get mad at God a few times, throw your Bible in anger against the wall and ask some really big questions like why God allows stuff to happen. That is a tough question to answer. Only people who suffer can share with people who suffer. Platitudinous Sunday school answers are like hammers coming down on the sufferer's head. When your expectations of God fall flat, how do you work through that to a satisfying answer? Most Christians cannot reason with the doubter, the atheist, the person who wants logical reasonable answers to his questions. They know how to be religious, but they don't know how to be Christians. It is not enough to tell someone they should have faith. There must be a logical progression of reason to bring anyone from point A to point B. Then there is the issue of intellectual honesty -- a rare thing in churches, but rare outside of churches too. I would much rather talk to an intellectually honest agnostic than a rigid doctrinaire christian who has not come into his belief honestly.
2006-11-14 17:51:24
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answered by pshdsa 5
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It must be pretty depressing not believing in God, I mean what is the point of your life? You live a few years, maybe 80 if you are lucky, and that is it!? I think everyone is born with the understanding that there is something bigger out there. I have no idea what had to happen in your life for you to ignore that. You sound mad, maybe you are just rebelling against God for some reason, have you ever thought of speaking to a counselor? It might be just what you need. If you really don't believe in God, why are you in the spiritual area, and why do you have such a great hate towards us? Seems to be more to it. Well I will pray for you.
2006-11-14 17:23:01
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answered by ? 3
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You sound like a real fun guy with a really high I.Q. I bet your a real blast at parties. If the Christian point of view bothers you so much, why read it? Do you want to convert Christians into becoming an atheist? Your glowing expressions, profound wording, and upbeat expressions, will surly make others want to become just like you... an avid intellectual good ole atheist. I'll have to say, and I'm sure they'll agree (not), your a real credit to your associates.
2006-11-14 18:09:18
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answered by Anonymous
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Excuse me, exactly how many priests and nuns do you know? My cousin is a Catholic priest. He has a law degree from Harvard and a Medical Degree from Baylor. He is the practicing physician for the priests in this diocese and also cares for sick children in underpriviledged countries. Oh yeah, and his IQ is 150. He is listed as one of the highest recorded IQs. Where did you get your law and medical degrees? You didn't specify that in your question. Furthermore, my friend's sister is a Carmalite nun. She has a PhD in Electrical Engineering from MIT. She also has a Law Degree from Yale. She is in charge of all the technology and legal issues for the entire population of Carmalite nuns. Where did you go to college again? Being religious doesn't make you stupid. Being judgemental and ignorant, but too dumb to know it, does.
2006-11-14 17:17:57
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answered by Anonymous
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Everyone has their own opinions, the only thing that is wrong are religious people who go to extremes, like muslim terrorists and christians that hate Jews and other religions etc. Everyone needs to accept other people's beliefs and then when that happens there will be a lot less wars.
2006-11-14 17:11:31
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answered by Anonymous
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There ARE some hyper-religious types whose thoughts are so focused on the heavens that they're no earthly good. Fortunately, they are the minority. Most Christians are midling believers that know deep down that they're just there for the dog and pony show every Sunday.
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2006-11-14 17:43:44
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answered by Anonymous
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I'm an atheist, but I don't think all people of faith are stupid. It's really a question of philosophy. I can use my powers of reason to decide there is no God, but if there is a God then maybe he can circumvent objective reality. I'm also sure a guy like C.S. Lewis or Saint Augustine would be a succesful person even without the faith.
2006-11-14 17:13:39
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answered by michinoku2001 7
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Behold! Here be a true man of learning, one who may peer through the veil and recognize a charlatan for what he is! Spread the word and be not afraid, do not cower before the ignorant masses! They be the sheeple of Jesus and yes, stupid.
Hey it's hard to even type in Biblic English. I need practice.
2006-11-14 17:17:14
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answered by Tom G 1
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