thots?"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day"

Question

What are your thoughts on this verse???

Answer 1

It's one of the verses that support the doctrine of election. I'm not a Calvanist or any other type of "ist" but the Bible clearly teaches that it is God who saves people and that He is the one who does the choosing.

Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love 5 he predestined us for adoption through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved.

Romans 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth." 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills. 19 You will say to me then, "Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?" 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, "Why have you made me like this?" 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honored use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory-- 24 even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?

Another doctrine that verse supports is the post-tribulation rapture because Jesus said He would raise people up on the "last day".

1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.

Notice the "last" trumpet.

Answer 2

Speaking of the Father drawing us to him by his spirit, and he says
I will draw all men to me. It's a choice, when he is drawing you, that is the time to make that choice and not turn a deaf ear.
It is not God's will that any man be lost and not have salvation and redemption through the blood of Jesus
Redemption means they he will redeem us back to him as if it were the beginning.
He will raise us up at the last day,
could be spiritual , he will raise us up in these last days with power and great glory, that is to say, gift's that glorify him, He said I will do a work in the last days, and after three days we will live in his sight. That is Glorious, to do the works of God
The time is short and the days are evil we must be about our Fathers business, that we will be vessels of honor, and that we will be accounted worthy to escape this present evil world
In the literal, it means after death, he will raise us up.
The corruption must put on in corruption.

Answer 3

THE RAISED UP AT THE LAST DAY John 6:39,40,44,54-58;

The bread and wine partakers, these are to be with Jesus where he is after Satan and unholy angels are cast down to footstool earth by Michael and holy angels of Gen.3:15 to fullfil the oldest prophecy in the WORD. John 3:13-17 Only Jesus went to heaven until at the last day, until Satan is cast down.
SATAN DOWN Rev.12:3,4,6-12; And Jesus said,"I go to prepare a place for you that where I am, there you may be also John 14:3 [ Some are baptized with the [ death ], baptism as was Jesus Matt.20:22,23; and same as above, only the Father can give them their position ] ;"
WITH SATAN CAST DOWN THE PLACE IS PREPARED IN THE LAST DAYS FOR THE LAST DAY.
Matt.22:42-44; Acts 2:27-35; Heb.1:1-13; Rom.16:20; Luke 10:18; This would have happened 2520 years after Babylon is Empire #3, Judah kings are destroyed, THERE WILL BE NO KING UNTIL KING JESUS : Jesus was crucified, resurrected, and ascended in year 33, in Rome Empire #6.
SATAN CAST DOWN ends Empire #7 and the world has the bible, for the last days..
THE WORD OF TRUTH IS IN THE WORLD, for over 300 years to be an excepted translation, to tell of the events of the last days before the second coming of Christ in the 8th that he will bring an end the world with Satan in it Matt.24:3,7,14,15,22,34,36-38 [ ONLY GOD KNOWS DAY AND HOUR if 6,130 years from Eden for Satan's end ];

THE KINGDOM OF THE HEAVENS

Eph.2:7; 3:21 The world with Jesus is without end.
Rev.20:1-6 [ the heavenly first resurrected are with him Rev.3:12 coming down out of the new heavenly Jerusalem, heavens from God to resurrect 12,13 the earthly for the new earth into the kingdom of the heavens for 1000 years and all is made as perfect as before Eden Heb.9:27 [ It is appointed unto man once to die and after that the judgement ]; Angels are judged Jude 6; 1Pet.3:18-20; 2Pet.2:4; from Gen.6:2,3 1Cor.6:2,3 THE SAINTS ARE THE JUDGES OF THE ANGELS THAT SINNED BEFORE THE FLOOD.
MAN IS RESURRECTED INTO THE JUDGEDMENT DAY:
Acts 17:13; 24:15; John 5:20,26-29; Dan.12:2 [ and above Michael is there to the end for the heavenly 1Thes.4:15-17; Mark 13:27; Heb.12:22-24; Gal.4:26; Rev.21:9,10 ];
SO DANIEL TELLS OF THE EARTHLY, SAVED BY THE HEAVENLY IS ALL POSSIBLE, ANY LOST HAS SELF TO BLAME:
1Cor.15:22-28,51-53 [ As in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive, IN ORDER, THE HEAVENLY FIRST, THOSE ALIVE AT HIS COMING, Matt.25:31-34 the sheep, meek and just, Rev.7:9-17 the great tribulation survivers.
THEN THE EARTHLY RESURRECTED ]; Isa.26:19; Psm.104:29,30; 2Cor.5:10 [ All must stand before the judgement seat of Christ Jesus ]; Rom.14:9-12; Philip.2:5,9-12; Matt.12:36; TO BE MADE PERFECT for all is made new 2Pet.3:13; Rev.12:1-5, verse 8 is the second death, Rev.20:7-10 is the final cleansing of earth and all on the side of Satan is consumed, Heb.2:9,14,16 and Jesus has the right to destroy Satan, Heb.9:14-16 Jesus gave us his word on all this.
ALL IS PERFECT TO PASS INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
The paradise promised Luke 23:43; Rev.2:7; 2Cor.12:2,4;

Answer 4

First, it tells me that the Father knows everything and everyone and Jesus is the way to the Father because Jesus will do just as He says and give us victory over death and hell. Makes me want to PRAISE THE LORD.

Answer 5

God who is all-knowing draws all those whom He knows will accept His Son as their Lord and Savior to be saved. Those whom God knows will not accept Jesus He will leave them alone. God never violates man'a free will. God will also not make a mistake.

Answer 6

Meaning there is no point in trying to convert people. Unless god wants them to, they're not going to change.

Answer 7

HE IS SAYING THAT GOD WILL DO EVERYTHING TO HELP YOU FOLLOW HIS PATH.BUT IT IS UP TO YOU TO FOLLOW THROUGH.AND IF YOU TAKE THE RIGHT PATH YOU WILL BE WITH HIM IN HIS GLORY IN HEAVEN ON THE LAST DAY..JUDGEMENT DAY

Answer 8

Thots? o.O What the hell does that mean and what language is it?

Answer 9

i think u are talkin about jesus (peace be upon him), but i believe in one god (not a father), and jesus is one of his prophets (peace be upon them all).