Non believers what can you say about this?

Question

First, as a favor, read Revelation Chapter 8, especially verse 11 (you can probably find it on the web for those who don't have a Bible) then do some research on the Chernobyl explosion in Russia. (which can also be found on the web)
Then, tell me what comes to mind about what is said in Revelation Chapter 8.

All I want is just your oppinion of the similarites...I'm not out to change your beliefs, only you could do that if you wanted. I JUST want to see what you think of the HUGE similarities. Nothing more!!

PS: Just to make sure it's clear, use the BIBLE, not the Koran. And the KJV or NKJV would work.

Answer 1

I would say that Cherynobl was not a star, nor did it come from the heavens. Even the fact that Cherynobl was a nuclear plant doesn't help. It worked through nuclear fission, a much different way than a star's nuclear fusion.

I would also say that a third of the waters of the world did not turn to "wormwood," which is a plant, though who knows if that's what the author is referring to as it doesn't make sense for it to be a plant.

I would say that the supposed translation of Cherynobl as wormwood is an urban legend and not true.

I would say that no men died as a result of drinking the water of Cherynobl, by which I would assume to mean the actual water used in nuclear fission, as any long-term effects would go against the timeline of Revelation.

I would say that the seas did not turn to blood, nor did a great burning mountain fall into the sea prior to the Cherynobl accident as a fulfillment of the second trumpet.

I would even go further and say that, after Cherynobl, that a third of the sun was not "smitten," nor was a third of the moon, nor a third of the stars. As far as I can tell, they're all still there.

I will stop there, as I don't really want to go through all the trumpets, bowls, and scrolls.

So, that's what I would say about it, if someone tried to use this as proof for Christianity.

Answer 2

Want the pessimistic perspective? We are a doomed people living on a doomed planet.
Want the Judeo/Christian perspective that's not smothered in political correctness? Moses brought down the Ten Commandments. These were too difficult for the people to follow. For most every sin, there were sin offerings. Ever try and buy a cow? They're expensive. Burning your very best was an expensive proposition and hopefully, you'd think twice before isnning again. This didn't work. The pharosees created over 2000 laws bywhich the people were expected to live. They turned the burnt offerings into a business. Christ came. What he preached was blasphemy to their ears. He put himself on the same plain as God and overturned their tables. Christ said that salvation will only be through me, that I am the way and the light. Can you imagine? He said that we should focus on Love thy God and Love Thy Neighbor. That all of the other commandments are based on these principles. He also warned that after he was gone, there would be others to follow. They would leed people astray. They put Christ to death. 600 years later, from the line of the illegetimate son of Abraham came Mohammad. He was described in the book of Genesis as being a horses *** amoung men (Abraham's il-begotten son, not Mohammed) Mohammed brought back the "An eye for an eye" religion. Read chapter 9 of the Qu'ran. There, he preached that you should severe yourself from the Jews and the Christians for they are infidels. Kill your brother and your father if they do not convert. Islam was spread by sword across the African continent and SouthWest Asia, all the way up into Europe. It began to weaken and fade when it finally spread to Spain. Turkey was for a while the last bastion of a "civilized" (read developed) nation of Islam. It was known as the Dieing Old Man. Along came the Pope and the "Crusades" to try and get back what had been taken from the Christians. It was more or less an excuse to rape, pillage and plunder -- or so popular apologists would have you believe. Christianity came out of the dark ages -- those following Islam (will hate me for all of this) are still stuck in a quagmire of the dark ages. Prior to Mohammed, that region of the world gave us, astrology, algebra, chemistry, perfume, literature and art. Since Mohammed, what have they given the world? Me thinkest the Pope was right several months ago.
Now, from a more neutral point. How do WE as a people get along? Love thy neighbor doesn't seem to be working.

Answer 3

Interesting question and not new. Nostradamus had the same prediction; Wormwood is a generalized symbolized term to begin with. Anyway, I don't think you're looking for an answer- just opinion. If that is the case, let's go through the other verse of the chapter. Speaking of the 7 archangels- that's been around for over 5000 years. The star Wormwood was also a reference to the doomsday asteroid that never happened. If tribulation has already begun, what does that say for the year we are living in?
I do commend you for having patience to post this. Have a nice week.

Answer 4

I would point you to the link below which discusses in depth why this "prophecy" is so much nonsense. Now, as a demonstration of how easy it is to suit recent events to texts written some 2,000 years ago, consider this:

"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

-- Revelations 12:9

Now, just a few weeks ago, in my weekly D&D game, the players defeated a fire-breathing dragon named Lucius. The dragon and his minions were defeated.

Hmmm, did the Biblical prophecy fulfill in my game?

Answer 5

Since I have never practiced Christianity, what makes you think that I would have a copy of the Bible in my home? Do you have a copy of the Hindu Vedas in your home? Do you have a copy of the Taoist Tao-te-Ching? Or the Shinto Kojiki?

Since I don't practice Christianity, I have no reason to own a Bible to look up something that I am not interested in from a holy text that I don't believe in. Do you believe in holy texts from religions other than your own?

Answer 6

Can you spell 'random coincidence'? I I had a journal in 2000, and I wrote, "Two pillars in the land of freedom wil fall down, and the world will feel pain" This looks like a random phrase written by an opium addict. Relate this two 9/11 however and OH MY GOD! HE CAN PREDICT THE FUTURE! Don't blindly follow your faith, use your brain, think.

Answer 7

I think I know where you're going with this - you've been told that Chernobyl means "wormwood" and ...since "wormwood" is used in the passage ... voila!

This my friend is old and has been blown out of the water several times. For one, it is NOT true that Chernobyl means "wormwood." Chernobyl means "mugwort" (Artemisia vulgaris). Wormwood is Artemisia absinthium. Worse than that, nobody's sure what exactly the Greek term (translated as "wormwood") actually stood for. (And of course you know it was a gas that caused the damage, not water.)

Answer 8

You know what sort of prophesy impresses me? Something like "On 26 April 1986 a power station in the Ukraine will overheat precipitating the release of tonnes of radioactive material over a wide area."

Does it say that in Revelation? I haven't checked.

Answer 9

Are you aware Revelations almost didn't make it into the Bible because some people thought the author was nothing more than a madman? They said it was garbage then and it's garbage now.

Answer 10

You DO realize that this is mythology we're talking about here right?
And that your bible has been changed umpteen times to correspond with past events and that people have changed the names of places to correspond with the bible?
Pretty easy to fulfil a prophecy when you write it and history at the same time.
Do try and tell reality from fantasy for once.