Could a good Judo Black Belt hold there own grappling with a Black Belt in Jujitsu?

Question

I've been training in Judo and Jujitsu and found that some Judo players are really skilled on the ground. It seems very common now for Judo players to cross train in Jujistu and to spend at least a 1/3 of the class on the matwork. I don't know if it is the same in all regions and clubs. I know some clubs even in my own area spend more time on matwork than other clubs. With the popularity on MMA and jujitsu I just think the trend has been to go to more matwork and maybe the Judo players are catching up? Or maybe the Jujistsu fighters will almost always beat the Judo guys on the ground?

Answer 1

Judo is a fantastic art, in my experience a skilled judo player will have the advantage on a juijitsu trained person.

However If the Judo player has no experience in practical application of Judo techniques in real life situations, or again does not know the tools of juijitsu and how to be wary of them then some of the quick applications of juijitsu groundwork may be effective. As could any technique.

The only judo trained player I have seen in action was from a third world country where he had ample experience in using judo to protect his health, i do not think any juijitsu player would have stood a chance against him.

In my eyes its impossible to say this stystem over this one, it is often more a case of the player. Juijitsu certainly has some technical advantages on the ground as does judo when standing

however this means very little, its all very hypothetical
if opposing players trained in each squared up, they would surely be aware of the strengths and weaknesses that each style potentially has, and do thier best to try and avoid these

mat work is not very good if the judo master has just thrown you fifteen feet into a tree

Answer 2

Judo was created by a Jujitsu Black belt. Who wanted to create a style that incompassed the best of Jujitsu but added other techniques such as the throws to make it more rounded for fighting and self defence. He put his best students against the best Jujitsu students from the area and his students won everytime.
Judo is different from alot of other arts in that only Kodokan Judo is taught no versians invented by some wanna be Master... The way it is taught might vary but the techniques are always the same. There are some schools that are better than others, some that push competitions and others that won't let people throw each other and only use dummies.... But the techniques are always the same.
I'm assuming Jujitsu is similar from dojo to dojo.

I will say a skilled Judoka against an equaly skilled Jujitsu fighter. Whether it be BJJ GJJ or traditional Jujitsu. The Judoka will win more times than the jujitsu fighter will.
Remember in MMA BJJ and GJJ don't teach all those strikes and ground and pound you see them doing that's additional training they've done ontop of the jujitsu.

Answer 3

I have studied judo for 4 years. Currently, I am cross training in both. Both styles do compliment each other very well. As far as groundwork is concerned jujitsu players are more sophisticated on the ground. They have more submissions, sweeps, reversals and move on the ground better. Judo is mostly takedowns and a judoka will definitely be able to take the fight to the ground how and when they want. The reason why i started to cross train is that I feel that being able to take your opponent down and establishing position on them after the take down is good. If you are into MMA google Karo Parisyan he's a judo guy with great take downs and good groundskills. In my judo class I would say we do about 20% groundwork and the rest standing.

Answer 4

It depends on who is the more dedicated artist and trains harder. Art doesn't matter but of course take this into consideration Judo is the Sport version of Jujitsu. Judo was derived from Jujitsu back in the day when they wanted to use it in competitions. Thats why the compliment each other well.

Answer 5

depends on the school and how they trained. Generally judo guys train and practice against live and resisting opponents a lot. Jujitsu is the same way (by jj you don't mean bjj or gjj for the gracie nutriders out there- yes I mean you with the shrine of helio in your room and penthouse with helio's head taped over the girls!), but I have seen bs jujitsu practitioners but maybe they were just full of it and claimed they took it and were really just parroting something they saw.

I would imagine that jujitsu taught not to go to a "judo" comp, has a higher possibility of bieng less quality training, but jujitsu aren't arts that raise an automatic red flag to be on your guard for bullcrap when I hear them.

Answer 6

Of course martial arts is just as much about the person training as it is the art they're training in.