2006-11-14 02:47:58 · 24 answers · asked by v v 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
i meant that if adam didn't take of the fruit, we would all be in the garden of eden, all sinless, right? so if adam didn't take the fruit, the plan of christ wouldn't happen right?
2006-11-14 02:54:27 · update #1
I believe God knew that Adam would take the fruit but he gave him the free choice whether to do it or not. God told him not to but he did it anyway. Just like our children do. You tell them not to do something but they do it anyway. But I believe God knows what we are going to do in the future but he is leaving it up to us to decide what we are going to do in life.
2006-11-14 02:51:38 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
There are two basic takes on this, the Arminium and the Calvinistic. The Arminians believe that man has a free will and thus Adam made the decision to partake of the fruit of his own free choice. The Calvinistic view is that Adam did make the choice but God had ordained it and Adam really didn't have a lot of choice in it. My personal opinion is the the Bible teaches the later that this was all included in God's overall plan for the ages.
2006-11-14 02:58:00 · answer #2 · answered by oldguy63 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, God didn't want Adam to take the fruit; Adam deliberately disobeyed God. But God had to allow Adam a choice, otherwise, it's not really obedience.
God had kicked Lucifer (Satan) out of Heaven for leading a revolt of 1/3 of the angels, so he was exiled to Earth. Satan hung around the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, just waiting for an opportunity to tempt these new people. If Adam had come to the Tree first, he might not have fallen, because he had actually seen God create stuff on the 6th day out of the ground (just for the Garden). Eve never saw God create anything - she was the last thing to be created. Therefore, she had no real appreciation for God as her Creator. So Satan took advantage of this when he tempted her. He placed doubt into her head concerning God's command not to touch or eat anything on the Tree, and he lied to her about the consequences. So she believed Satan over God, and as a result, sin entered this world, and we have today things like the Iraq War, 9/11 and Hitler.
2006-11-14 02:58:33 · answer #3 · answered by FUNdie 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Rather than say it was God's plan for Adam to partake of the fruit, it should be stated that God gave Adam and Eve a choice and they made the only choice that would have allowed mankind to be. God knew Adam's nature, and therefore knew Adam would make that choice, but he was not forced to do so. So, I guess, yes, it was was part of the plan.
2006-11-14 02:52:06 · answer #4 · answered by straightup 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Only if you believe in predestination, meaning that God has a specific plan for each of us and that whatever happens in our life is destined to happened.
God has the ability to do this in certain situations only to achieve his divine plan for creation, but he does not enforce this action on every poor creature that he has created at all times. If he did, that would leave him responsible for every action and every sin that has ever been committed since the beginning of creation. That is not free will, that would be his will.
Also, if he has already determined whether certain individuals will attain everlasting life, wouldn't it have to happen? He is unable to be wrong. If he know something, it has to happen that way, right? If this is the case, does everyone really have a chance to attain everlasting life?
2006-11-14 03:23:06 · answer #5 · answered by Rob 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If God is completely sovereign (and He is) then ultimately, He must have ordained the Fall.
Appealing to "free will" does not address the core issue because if God created Adam without a sinful nature (and He did), from where did Adam's desire to sin come? Why would an all-good creature "choose" to do evil?
God is the Prime Mover of everything, no exceptions. While He is not morally responsible for sin, He, in His sovereign goodness ordained that it come to be.
Consider Isaiah 63:17, "Why, O LORD, do You cause us to stray from Your ways And harden our heart from fearing You? Return for the sake of Your servants, the tribes of Your heritage." Yes, God ordains that people stray from His commandments.
2006-11-14 03:01:48 · answer #6 · answered by 5solas 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No. It was God's gift of Free Will that caused Adam to take to fruit.
2006-11-14 02:54:17 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I accept without question that it was gods plan to die for or sins but honestly in this age of enlightenment who could possibly accept the myth that is Adam and eve surely everybody has heard of Darwin's theory of evolution
2006-11-14 02:58:15 · answer #8 · answered by michael c 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, God created people with free will. God did not want Adam to choose the wrong path, but Adam chose it and sealed our destiny, and the need to have Christ die for our sins.
2006-11-14 02:49:44 · answer #9 · answered by kristin c 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Like everyone said, he gave us free will. It was only after Adam and Eve sinned did he have to come up with another plan to fix everything.
2006-11-14 02:58:07 · answer #10 · answered by CHRISTINA 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋