Trinity is a word that was never found in bible, neither was clearly resolved by any Christian on earth.
Instead of explaining it , Christians tell you "you can never know the reality of God"!! , most of our minds, however, tend to believe God's reality is more simple than this, why would God want to confuse us about himself?????
Recent researches - by Christian institute in London- showed that over 65% of Christians converting to other religions do that because they never believed that Jesus was son of God , and therefore they deny the trinity...
2006-11-13 21:38:35 · 11 answers · asked by shdtt 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
According what i heard about the teaching of the trinity, it is described as God the Father, God the Son and God the holy Spirit, all three are one, have equal power and that none is above the other. This does not correspond with what i've studied in the bible. The bible describes Jesus as the Son of God and not God himself. Jesus said he cannot do anything without his father's approval, that shows he has someone more superior than himself. Jesus is different from the Almighty God, Jesus was created but God has no begining nor end(Philipians 2:5-11,Revelation 3:14) Besides the holy spirit is not a person like God, it is God's active force, what he uses in accomplishing his purpose. Jesus was said to be standing at the right hand side of God, but there was no mention of the Holy spirit.
2006-11-13 21:48:05 · answer #1 · answered by girlfunny 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
"Recent researches - by Christian institute in London- showed that over 65% of Christians converting to other religions do that because they never believed that Jesus was son of God , and therefore they deny the trinity... "
I would assume that anyone converting to another religion would be in denial of the Trinity, otherwise they wouldn't be converting.
Blessed Be
2006-11-13 21:41:20 · answer #2 · answered by Celestian Vega 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
To believe in the Trinity you must believe first of all that there is a God. Also the Father, Son, and Spirit are three parts of the same substance, just as water, ice and steam are. Everyone believes that these three substance can come from the same thing depending on it's need. Just as God is TriUn, for the same reason.
2006-11-13 21:47:35 · answer #3 · answered by Lisa F 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I deny it. When he got baptized a loud voice from Heaven said "This is my son the beloved whom I have approved..." And then the Holy Spirit came down in the form of a dove. I mean you dont get much clearer than that. But Trinitarians also focus on the time Jesus Said " Me and the Father are one" but they dont read a few passages down where he says "nothing I do is of my own initiative but the will of my father." He is basically saying he and his father are like on They agree on all things, Jesus is carrying the Justice and Laws of God out. He was as if God himself came down to earth. Not that he is God. He Prayed all the time for Goodness sake. WHo was he praying to himself?
2006-11-13 23:05:05 · answer #4 · answered by david s 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Two things confuses me about Christianity:
1- A God in all religions is the most power full, then: "How can someone harm GOD?"
2- "If the God was Not One, who shall decide and Judge people?, and If only One, How can he be shared?"
2006-11-13 21:57:57 · answer #5 · answered by Tamer A 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The concept of the Trinity is a testament to the Greatness of God. It isn't SUPPOSED to make any sense. God isn't subject to simple human arithmetic.
You can't count God. He just isn't a countable entity. I can have one apple, I can have one pencil, and God is One but He is not countable as one like something I can hold in my hand and point to and say I have "one." God is way way way too great for us to begin to expect to be able to comprehend His nature with our little brains.
Saint Augustine describes a dream he had. In the dream, he was walking along a beach, trying to figure out the mystery of the trinity. How can one be three? How can three be one? How can God be both three and one at the same time? As he walked and thought about this, he saw a kid digging a hole in the sand, and bringing a bucket of water over from the ocean and pouring it in the hole. He did this over and over and over again. Puzzled, Saint Augustine asked him what he was doing.
"Well, you see that ocean over there?" the boy asked.
"Yes," Augustine answered.
"I'm trying to put that ocean over there into this hole over here."
Augustine laughed and told him there was no way he was going to be able to put that whole ocean into that little hole.
The boy looked up into his face and said, "And there's no way you're going to comprehend the nature of God with that little human brain of yours, no bigger than a little hole in the sand."
2006-11-13 22:42:26 · answer #6 · answered by Freedom 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
"Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God." (1 John 4:15 )
2006-11-13 21:46:01 · answer #7 · answered by DREAMER 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
father son and holy ghost was never mentioned in the bible?
What is the trinity?
2006-11-13 22:00:31 · answer #8 · answered by Labatt113 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
put the bible together as a whole and it is very clear that the trinity is plausible.
This web site has made my faith much stronger in defending the facts
2006-11-13 21:57:19 · answer #9 · answered by Slave to JC 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
"Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name (NOT THE NAMES) of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" (St. Matt. 28:20).
Many Christians begin to learn about the Trinity through knowledge of Baptism. This is also a starting point for others in comprehending why the doctrine matters to so many Christians, even though the doctrine itself teaches that the being of God is beyond complete comprehension. The Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed are structured around profession of the Trinity, and are solemnly professed by converts to Christianity when they receive baptism, and in the Church's liturgy, particularly when celebrating the Eucharist. One or both of these creeds are often used as brief summations of Christian faith by mainstream denominations.
One God
God is one, and the Godhead a single being: The Hebrew Scriptures lift this one article of faith above others, and surround it with stern warnings against departure from this central issue of faith, and of faithfulness to the covenant God had made with them. "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD" (Deuteronomy 6:4) (the Shema), "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" (Deuteronomy 5:7) and, "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel and his redeemer the LORD of hosts: I am the first and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." (Isaiah 44:6). Any formulation of an article of faith which does not insist that God is solitary, that divides worship between God and any other, or that imagines God coming into existence rather than being God eternally, is not capable of directing people toward the knowledge of God, according to the trinitarian understanding of the Old Testament. The same insistence is found in the New Testament: "...there is none other God but one" (1 Corinthians 8:4). The "other gods" warned against are therefore not gods at all, but substitutes for God, and so are, according to St. Paul, simply mythological or are demons.
So, in the trinitarian view, the common conception which thinks of the Father and Christ as two separate beings, is incorrect. The central, and crucial affirmation of Christian faith is that there is one savior, God, and one salvation, manifest in Jesus Christ, to which there is access only because of the Holy Spirit. The God of the Old is still the same as the God of the New. In Christianity, it is understood that statements about a solitary god are intended to distinguish the Hebraic understanding from the polytheistic view, which see divine power as shared by several separate beings, beings which can, and do, disagree and have conflicts with each other. The concept of Many comprising One is quite visible in the Gospel of John, chapter 17, verses 20 through 23.
God exists in three persons
The "Shield of the Trinity" or "Scutum Fidei" diagram of traditional Western Christian symbolism.This one God however exists in three persons, or in the Greek hypostases. God has but a single divine nature. Chalcedonians — Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants — hold that, in addition, the Second Person of the Trinity — God the Son, Jesus — assumed human nature, so that he has two natures (and hence two wills), and is really and fully both true God and true human.
The singleness of God's being and the multiplicity of the Divine Persons together account for the nature of Christian salvation, and disclose the gift of eternal life. "Through the Son we have access to the Father in one Spirit" (Ephesians 2:18). Communion with the Father is the goal of the Christian faith and is eternal life. It is given to humans through the Divine union with humanity in Jesus Christ who, although fully God, died for sinners "in the flesh" to accomplish their redemption, and this forgiveness, restoration, and friendship with God is made accessible through the gift to the Church of the Holy Spirit, who, being God, knows the Divine Essence intimately and leads and empowers the Christian to fulfill the will of God. Thus, this doctrine touches on every aspect of the trinitarian Christian's faith and life; and this explains why it has been so earnestly contended for, throughout Christian history.
78 References and Illusions To The Trinity Found In The Sacred Scriptures
I. Even the Old Testament makes definite reference both to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
Isaiah 11:2 "...the Spirit ... the Lord ... Him"
Isaiah 42:1 "My Servant ... I ... My Spirit ... upon Him"
Isaiah 48:16 "The Lord God ... His Spirit ... sent Me"
Isaiah 61:1 "Spirit of the Lord God ... upon Me ... the Lord"
Isaiah 63:9 "He ...the Angel of His Presence ... His Holy Spirit"
II. Close examination of the following New Testament scriptures will make obvious to any student of the Bible that the doctrine of the Godhead is truth.
Matthew 1:20, 21 "the Lord (the Father) ... the Holy Spirit ... Jesus"
Matthew 3:16, 17 "Jesus ... the Spirit of God ... a Voice from heaven (the Father)"
Matthew 12:18 "I ... My Spirit ... on Him"
Matthew 22:42, 43 "Christ ... the Spirit ... Lord (the Father)"
Mark 1:9-11 "Jesus ... the Spirit ... a Voice from heaven ... My beloved Son"
Mark 12:35, 36 "Christ ... the Holy Spirit ... the Lord (the Father)"
Luke 1:35 "the Holy Spirit ... the Highest ... the Son of God"
Luke 2:26, 27 "the Holy Spirit ... Christ ... Jesus"
Luke 3:21, 22 "Jesus ... the Holy Spirit ... a Voice from heaven ... My beloved Son"
Luke 10:21 "Jesus ... the Spirit ... Father"
Luke 12:9, 10 "God ... the Son ... the Holy Spirit"
John 3:5 "Jesus ... the Spirit ... God"
John 3:34, 35 "God ... the Spirit ... the Father ... the Son"
John 4:24, 25 "God ... a Spirit ... Messiah... Christ"
John 14:16, 17, 26 "the Comforter ... the Father ... in My name"
John 15:26 "the Comforter ... the Father ... of Me"
John 20:21, 22 "Jesus ... Father ... the Holy Spirit"
Acts 2:32,33 "Jesus ... God ... the Father ... the Holy Spirit"
Acts 2:38,39 "Jesus Christ ... the Holy Spirit ... God"
Acts 4:30,31 "Jesus ... the Holy Spirit ... God"
Acts 5:31,32 "God ... a Prince and Savior ... the Holy Spirit"
Acts 7:55 "the Holy Spirit ... Jesus ... God"
Acts 8:14_16 "God ... the Holy Spirit ... Jesus"
Acts 10:38 "God ... Jesus ... the Holy Spirit"
Acts 10:46_48 "God ... the Holy Spirit ... the Lord"
Acts 11:16, 17 "the Lord... the Holy Spirit ... God ... the Lord Jesus Christ"
Acts 20:21_23 "God ... Jesus ... the Holy Spirit"
Romans 1:1,3,4 "God ... His Son, Jesus Christ ... the Spirit"
Romans 5:5,6 "God ... the Holy Spirit ... Christ"
Romans 8:2,3 "the Spirit ... Jesus ... God ... His own Son"
Romans 8:8,9 "God ... the Spirit ... the Spirit of Christ"
Romans 8:16, 17 "the Spirit ... God ... Christ"
Romans 14:17, 18 "the Holy Spirit ... Christ... God"
Romans 15:12, 13 "Root of Jesse (Jesus) ... God ... Holy Spirit"
Romans 15:16 "Jesus ... God ... the Holy Spirit"
Romans 15:30 "The Lord Jesus Christ ... the Spirit ... God"
1 Corinthians 6:10, 11 "God ... the Lord Jesus... the Spirit"
I Corinthians 12:4_6 "Spirit ... Lord... God"
1 Corinthians 7:39, 40 "the Lord Jesus ... the Spirit ... God"
1 Corinthians 8:2 "the Lord Jesus ... the Spirit ... God"
2 Corinthians 3:3, 4 "the Spirit ... Christ ... God"
2 Corinthians 13:14 "Jesus... God ... the Holy Spirit"
2 Corinthians 5:5, 6 "God ... the Spirit ... the Lord (Jesus)"
Galatians 4:6, 7 "God ... the Spirit ... Son ... Father ... God ... Christ"
Ephesians 2:18 "through Him (Jesus) ... Spirit ... the Father"
Ephesians 2:21, 22 "the Lord ... God ... the Spirit"
Ephesians 3:14, 16 "the Father ... Jesus Christ ... His Spirit"
Ephesians 4:4-6 "Spirit ... Lord (Jesus) ... God and Father"
Ephesians 5:18-20 "Spirit ... Lord (Jesus) ... God ... Father"
Colossians 1:6-8 "God ... Christ ... Spirit"
1Thessalonians 4:6-8 "Lord (Jesus) ... God ... Holy Spirit"
1 Thessalonians 5:18, 19 "God ... Father ... Christ ... Jesus ... Spirit"
2 Thessalonians 2:13, 14 "God ... Lord... God ... Spirit ... Lord Jesus Christ"
Titus 3:4-6 "God ... Holy Spirit ... Jesus Christ"
Hebrews 2:3, 4 "Lord (Jesus) ... God ... Holy Spirit"
Hebrews 3:4, 6, 7 "God ... Christ... Holy Spirit"
Hebrews 6:4-6 "Holy Spirit ... God ... Son"
Hebrews 9:14 "Christ ... Spirit ... God"
Hebrews 10:29-31 "Son of God ... Spirit ... Lord ... God"
1 Peter 1:2 "God the Father ... Spirit ... Jesus Christ"
1 Peter 3:18 "Christ ... God ... Spirit"
1 Peter 4:14 "Christ ... Spirit ... God"
2 Peter 1:21 "God ... Holy Spirit... Lord (Jesus)"
2 Peter 2:1 "God ... Holy Spirit ... Lord (Jesus)"
1 John 4:2 "Spirit ... Jesus ... God"
1 John 4:13, 14 "Spirit ... Father ... Son ... Savior"
1 John 5:7 "Father... Word ... Holy Spirit"
Jude 20, 21 "the Holy Spirit... God... Lord ... Jesus Christ"
Revelation 1:9, 10 "Jesus Christ ... God ... Jesus Christ ... Spirit"
Revelation 3:5-7 "Father ... Spirit ... He that hath the key of David (Jesus)"
Revelation 14:12, 13 "God ... Jesus ... Lord ... Spirit"
Revelation 21:9, 10 "Lamb ... Spirit ... God"
Revelation 22:16-18 "the offspring of David (Jesus) ... Spirit ... God"
2006-11-14 06:20:59 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋