What are good christian books with real scientific points ?

Question

I've been listening to Richard Dawkins and it seems so disheartening. To think were here on mere happenstance. Evolution is a controlled process, but what started that process ? Is it not possible that the big bang happened and was indeed started by a designer. I can see no other viable alternative. The universe must have a beggining and an end. Even if this universe was birthed from previous one, there was still a beginning and an end. I believe God can exist. He has always been there, and by that definition he exist outside the real of the natural, therefore concluding he is supernatural. This is the only way i can think with my tiny brain that this universe was created. I mean if not by a designer than by how, and not only that, but created from what ? I want to find books, not nescicarily christian ones, but books that can go toe to toe with dawkin's and other's assertions of the absence of a creator

Answer 1

Huh? If we postulate that the universe needed a designer, then God needed a designer, then God's designer needed a designer... it makes no more rational sense than the Big Bang chain of universes.

Now, I will explain life on Earth:

Imagine an ocean. An ocean full of simple chemicals, some of which come from hydrothermal vents or hitch a ride to Earth on comets. Add energy to the system in the form of sunlight, cosmic rays, lightning and weather. Stir gently. Imagine the enormous numbers of such molecules in the ocean. Imagine that number of molecules going through various random permutations for a few million years. Eventually most of the combinations of hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen and carbon will have been tried. One of those possible combinations turns out to to be a very, very primitive bacterium, that evolved into all other life.

I have similar stock answers already prepared for every other question ever posed to me by a creationist, both muslim and christian. Rationality and religion are diametrically opposed.

The only reason why smart people believe religion is because it seems that without religion there can be no beauty or meaning in life, and they cannot accept this fact. Its a subconscious thing that 90% of theists don't know they are doing. I have met theists who were aware that they were deluding themselves. Suprisingly, they seem like normal people.

Beauty is a human experience that is totally separate from God and designers (look at truly random patterns of clouds on a summer day sometime and tell me they aren't beautiful), and meaning is whatever you find meaningful. For some people this is service to their God, but I personally prefer the quest to love and be loved (not necessarily in sexual terms), along with a quest for knowledge.

But that's just me. You must find your own way. Perhaps you find it meaningful to attempt the impossible and stand toe to toe with a smart atheist in logical debate for all I know!

Answer 2

There are viable alternatives to a supernatural force starting the big bang - at the moment, they are theoretical. We're hoping the new supercolliders coming online in the next few years will help us try to answer these questions. But there will always be questions we don't know the answer to - the more questions we answer, the more we discover. We don't plan to stop searching for the answers.

If you want to learn more about the universe, try Stephan Weinbergs 'The First Three Minutes' and pretty much anything by Carl Sagan (except his fiction). If you really want to understand, you may have to take some upper level physics courses - sorry, but the universe is complicated! You can grasp the general idea of things, but to really UNDERSTAND, you have to put in the effort.

Edit: I just thought of another one. Bill Bryson's "A Short History of Everything" is great for getting the basic idea of what we know about the universe and the Earth - and how we know it. It's a great book, very accessible and interesting, and sometimes funny.

Answer 3

So what you are saying is that, on an emotional level, you don't want to think that we are here by chance. Well I guess you are a prime target for the emotional hooks of religion... But what is wrong with you, me, everyone else and, in fact, every individual thing alive on Earth being here by a near one in infinity miracle? Does that not make life - yours, mine and everyone elses - a cause for enormous celebration?

Yes, all of our brains are tiny and adapted for our social existance on this planet, hence we tend to anthropomorphise - seek a conscious creator to things we don't understand, whether it was a spear left on the ground or lightning thousands of years ago, or the universe today. But does the universe/multiverse really need to have a beginning and an end? If a creator can be infinite then why not the universe/multiverse?

Anyway, sorry I don't know of any books. But be careful, most creationist "science" I've seen in my field is full of half-truths and outright deceptions.

Answer 4

Big bang or the great explosion theory:

" And have the unbelievers not considered that the heavens and the earth were a mass joined together, then We split them? And We made every living thing of water. Will they not then believe?"
[Qura'n 21:30]

The Universe is expanding "Expansion theory":
"And the heaven, We built it with might, and We will surely be extending it"
[Quran 51:47]

The end of the universe (science says that this universe will eventually die, scientists believe that it will re-collapse again:
"On that Day, We shall roll up the heaven like a written scroll is rolled. As we originated the first creation, so will We bring it back again. This is a binding promise on Us which We shall assuredly fulfill."
[Quran 21:30]
Do you have something like this in the bible..

Answer 5

You have the common selfish attitude that you want to live forever. Not just forever but forever in heaven with eternal youth and unchanging perfection.

Does that not strike you as a bit odd.

How about if you realized that your claim to immortality was through your children. That making your life mean something here and now is worth more than all the eternal promises made of nonexistant places.
Heaven and Hell exist side by side right now and right here on Earth and are both open all the time.

Answer 6

I think there is a Christian Science sect (see link)

If you can understand simple plilosophy take this to your thought of evolution and dorkin's theory.

To create something you must do it based on prior experience..so says the brain. Ok to evolve you are creating something right new. OK now consider the senses, all 5. Now how can senses be evolved into if you have no knowledge of them prior. Make sense? You would need a 6th sense really! So evolved from blobs are silly. As far as who or what created us shall be a mystery to some of us including the darkins and darwins.

Answer 7

Here is a book for you:
" Life -How did it get here? By evolution or by creation"

Millions of people today believe in evolution. Other millions believe in creation. Still others are uncertain what to believe. This book is for all such people. It presents a thourough researched examination of how life got here- and what this means for the future.

Among some of the topics discussed are:
"Life how did it start"
"Could life originate by chance"
"Letting the fossil record speak"
"Mutations - A basis for Evolution"
"The amazing Design of living things"
"Why do many Accept Evolution"
" Can you Trust the Bible"
"The Human Miracle"
and many more interesting chapters

the book has many credits and references too many to mention here.

You can take contact to the source mentioned below to get a copy or ask a Jehovahs Wittness in your community( I am sure they are in your area) no strings attached no commitment. Or you can contact me and I will gladly send it too you free of charge.

Answer 8

I have a book called the Almanac of the Bible..... Written in Jerusalem by Geoffrey Wigoder.....

it is an exceptional source of truth... with a wealth of actual findings which prove alot of things written in Scripture are not just written by men who had something on their minds......


Your sister,
Ginger

Answer 9

Check out www.answersingenesis.org for tons of information that will satisfy an level of questions you might have.

Answer 10

Josh McDowell has some really good ones.

Blessed Be