THE USA was FOUNDED on Christian Beliefs -- Why would you Change that ?

Question

The USA was founded on GOD FEARING CHRISTIAN BELIEFS it is even in our constitution, but yet i see people wanting to take this out of the USA

WHy change america ? Why change it from the reason it was created ?

the WHOLE purpose of the USA was to practice Christian Faiths away from the rule of England.

So to take this out of our system would to be change the whole reason why we came here in the first place,

Why should the Majority change all that for the minority ( homosexuals athiests etc ) ?

Yes YEs christians did

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/04/30/235038.php

that is the wrong paste ^^ that was misclicked from another post
here is the right one

http://www.americanvision.org/articlearchive/04-29-05.asp

http://www.americanvision.org/articlearchive/04-29-05.asp

tells about christians and the USA framers

Christians arent the majority ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States

88% isnt the majority ?

Wise1
your answer is false, respect like umm slavery or women not having rights ?
or a MAN was a WHITE LAND HOLDING VOTER
Please know your facts bud before you tell people to leave

Answer 1

Right on, Jaden!!

Answer 2

The whole premise here is kinda silly...

Firstly, I'm not seeing how we're "changing" anything. The original money did NOT have "in God we Trust," and the original Pledge of Allegiance did NOT have "under God." If we're trying to get back to our roots, those are the first two things that should go.

Second, as others have said, most of the founding fathers were deists, not Christians. Moreover, even if they were Christians, they realized the fundamental flaw of mixing government with religion. Even if Washington himself asked Jesus to be his Lord and Savior every single day, he still signed the Treaty of Tripoli to say "The US is not in any way a Christian nation." There is a difference between policy that governs my personal life, and policy that governs the lives of others.

Third, the existence or lack thereof of "God" in the Constitution is not what the debate is about. The phrases "right to privacy" and "right to a fair trial" also do not exist, but secularists clearly understand those terms. I applaud the website for saying that just because God doesn't appear in the Constitution doesn't mean the intent wasn't there. Good job. But that is the most trivial of arguments. There are many other reasons for a secular view of the Constitution that were left unaddressed.

Fourth, just because the founding fathers did it, doesn't mean we should. Let's remember that the founding fathers all had slaves, and that the original Constitution counted a black man as 3/5 of a person. Should we return to that principle as well? Of course not. America has evolved over time to give rights to groups such as women and minorities -- and this is what sets it apart from other nations. Freedom and non-intrusion into people's lives are the founding principles, not Jesus.

Fifth, along the same lines, there is ample evidence showing that the government was established to explicitly protect minorities. That's the whole purpose of the Senate -- Rhode Island gets as much of a voice as all of California. By creating that type of governing body, they were protecting minority states from majority rule. Patterns of this minority-protection exist throughout our Constitution, so an appeal to majority is a very weak argument.

In short, your argument has some initial merit (just because "God" is not in the Constitution doesn't mean he doesn't belong there), but it falls flat on its face in light of all other lines of evidence.

Answer 3

Yeah, most of the founders were Deists, believing that God created the Earth, but then just left it, letting it advance as clockwork. In that system, God has never had anything to do with this country. Puritans came to this country from England to escape persecution, (like the Mayflower), but there was no independent government set up, and our values have changed plenty since 1776 anyways. Slavery was once upheld with the support of passages in the Bible. We only have laws regarding two of the ten commandments. There's nothing wrong with following Christian doctrine, and you could make the argument that a good amount of American culture is based on Judeo-Christian beliefs, but our government is not founded on a base of Christianity, and the fact that America was settled by immigrants from many places makes it impossible to say that America is totally based on any sort of specific ideology.

Answer 4

Get some education. The USA was not founded by Christians. The Constitution was drafted by Jefferson and Franklin, who were borderline atheists. They nevertheless sought to protect the rights of all to practice whatever they wished without interference from the state. They are to be much admired for that.

Since "the majority" is not an argument for anything being foisted onto anyone else - no-one is going to make YOU homosexual, for instance - your attutudes are profoundly unAmerican. You should be ashamed, but you don't strike me as the sort of person who is very familiar with shame.

Answer 5

Native American Shamanism was the original religion. Christians found this to be wrong, even though for thousands of years, they never went to america, and thus killed us Native Americans because we believed in more than one god and they didn't. The single god theory came about 0 BC/AD, or around catholic Constantine's time, when he got tired of seeing everyone doing the same thing they had been doing since the cavemen. he had a new idea and forced everyone to believe it, and christians are now in charge of thinking the cross is only a christian thing... NOPE! they stole that from us pagans because that was the only way to promote popularity of the single-god theory.

Answer 6

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Answer 7

This is a weighted and biased question. You already believe that you know the answer and have come here to provoke and argue. I don't believe that you're looking to truly hear other people's opinions. Nor do I think that you'd respect them for what they have to say.
Try and spend some time helping others/spreading good will. What you're seeking to do certainly is not capable of any type of personal or spiritual enrichment.
Either you're playing devil's advocate or deep down you have some issues that you should confront personally and honestly.

Answer 8

I read your link.
You people sure like beating up on poor old Darwin. Darwin did not make the world Secular. You people have that totally wrong.
The Church, and at that time it was the only Church was fighting against secular heretics for about a thousand years before Darwin was born. What do you think the Heretics were being burned for.
All you people want to do is roll the clock back to about the sixth century.

Answer 9

The US was founded upon Deism, not Christianity. Three of the first four founding presidents publicly denounced Christianity.

The concept of "deism" covers a wide variety of positions on a wide variety of religious issues. Following Sir Leslie Stephen's English Thought in the Eighteenth Century, most commentators agree that two features constituted the core of deism:

* the rejection of revealed religion — This was the negative or critical aspect of deism.
* the belief that reason leads us to certain basic religious truths — This was the positive or constructive aspect of deism.

Deist authors advocated a combination of both critical and constructive elements in proportions and emphases that varied from author to author.

Critical elements of deist thought included:

* Rejection of all religions based on books that claim to contain the revealed word of God.
* Rejection of the claim that the Bible is the revealed word of God.
* Rejection of reports of miracles and prophecies.
* Rejection of religious "mysteries" such as the doctrines of transsubstantiation, the Trinity, the Incarnation, etc.
* Rejection of the Genesis story of creation and the doctrine of original sin.
* Rejection of only the parts of the Bible that contain miracles, prophecies, or mysteries.
* Rejection of Christianity.

Constructive elements of deist thought included:

* God exists and created the universe.
* God wants human beings to behave morally.
* Human beings have souls that survive death, i.e. there is an afterlife.
* In the afterlife, God will reward moral behavior and punish immoral behavior.

Some Deists rejected the claim of Jesus's divinity, but continued to hold him in high regard as a moral teacher (see, for example, Thomas Jefferson's famous Jefferson Bible). Other, more radical, Deists rejected Christianity altogether, and expressed hostility toward Christianity which they regarded as pure superstition. In return, Christian writers often charged radical Deists with atheism.

As you will note, God is not mentioned once in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence. A Creator is mentioned, but not the Christian, Jewish, Muslim or any other specific god.

It was never meant to be a Christian nation, but rather a nation where all religions may flourish of their own accord.

Answer 10

This country was indeed founded by Christians, but it is also about tolerance and equality and opportunity for everyone. If you don't like being forced to treat people who are different from you with respect, you should be the one to leave.

Answer 11

"As this country is not, IN ANY WAY, a Christian Nation ..."

The Treaty of Tripoli, signed by George Washington


Congratulations, you are the winner of today's "Lying For Jesus" award.

Yes, the country was founded by people who wanted the freedom to worship whatever or whoever they pleased, with no one telling them who or how or whether to worship. That's freedom of and from religion, not the right to push your particular religion down the throats of others.