Now that the US has lost the war in Iraq,will it learn from history or continue its folly?

Question

This is not the first war the US has lost but doesn't mean that it will be the last war they've fought.

Will the US finally stop destroying people's lives under whatever pretexts of democracy, freedom, liberation, oil and greed?

Sister Nancy D, please tell me you're joking.

the US DID start the war, invading a country thousands of miles away from US shorelines, no where near your borders. you had to haul your asses all the way down there to kill people.

*smacking my forehead*

Answer 1

I agree with the first two answers, historically they are just repeating the same mistakes and are likely to continue to do so.

Mind you, there is less noise now about invading Iran next.

Meantime, they are "riding the tiger" and don't know how to get off.

The people who sit in the comfort of their homes stating "we will stand and fight" make me ill to my stomach. THEY are not there - its someone else getting maimed and blown up. They are the sort who send people to fight these wars - other people. Can't they see that nobody wins these conflicts? People die, the innocent right along with the "guilty" .

I think your "destroying people's lives" is a less than impartial generalisation, but I would suppose you have a specific grievance you have not shared? I do not think "they" set out to do this. It was a side effect.

Oh and one final comment? It was not a war it was an invasion. The success of an invasion is not invading, its holding what you have invaded.

And for the "gentleman" who assumes all that is not pro-American is thus Muslim extremist - I am neither Muslim nor extremist. He would do well to familiarise himself with a little basic geography (all Muslims are not Arab) and understanding of the theology of other religions than his own (all Muslims are not extremist and true Islam advocates tolerance), although I doubt he has properly studied his own.

Answer 2

I am hurt by the way people will jab at others over wins or losses.
The Iraqi people want change. No one wants to live in a third world country forever and that is what Saddam and the extremists wer trying to do. The best way to control a people is to keep them ignorant and poor. This question bares ignorance. I am not justifying what may be poor decisions, but the war is over. Iraq is occupied by the U.S. That is the situation. Just as in Japan after WWII, we are bound by the Genovia Convention, I know I probably spelled that wrong, to stay inland until this country can rule itself and becomes economically stable.

If you refering to Veitnam, we learned a valuable lesson there. Politicians cannot fight wars. That must be left to the generals.
Nam was not even our war. Because of NATO treaties, Nam was a French Colony that wanted their Independance from France. The French started that problem, and when the U.S. showed up, the French left it to us. Maybe it is all the treaties that we sign that make us look bad. It is meant in good intentions not to leave a country in ruins after the battle. The U.S. didnot lose.
We won. Against the largest known armed militia in the Middle East. Is that what it is all about? Should we just walk away? Or,
maybe we should help them on the road to their own independance and self supportedness. At this point, it is the extreme religious factions wanting the most valued prize that nobody seems to see, POWER OVER THE PEOPLE. That is the bottom line, no matter what else may happen. POWER.
The people should be the power, not a dictator, cleric, or some rag head with hate in his heart. People of any color and race
deserve better than that. Look people, this is the 21st century,
not the 1st century.

Answer 3

The reason grew to become into lacking help at homestead. The individuals, bored with collaborating in this high priced and persistent engagement (properly over a decade of militia involvement), have been searching for a solid way out. It grew to become right into a huge component to opposition in the federal elections. The Paris Peace Accords have been considered as an hazard to ultimately go away at a similar time as nonetheless saving face. Predictably, North Vietnam and the 'Viet Cong' communities nonetheless persevered to depose the South Vietnamese government besides, yet that grew to become into it - the U. S. had adequate and saved their involvement afterwards to a bare minimum. It grew to become into obvious that South Vietnam had little hazard of putting on by ability of themselves, with out finished American militia help. on the time of the Paris Peace Accords, the yank government believed that this grew to become into their honorable, if-not-positive-then-at-least-a-tie go out from the conflict. for sure that's not the common view international on the instant. As you assert, the North Vietnamese ultimately achieved their purpose, at a similar time as the individuals gave up.

Answer 4

The U.S. hasn't lost anything.
1. There is now a democratic government
2. by the end of the year, the number of police and soldiers the U.S. wanted to train will be trained. That total number is over 500,000 people
3. Over 1,000 buildings including schools and hospitals have or will be built.
4. Iraq's government will be in charge of half of Iraq by the end of this year.
5. The U.S. is only using 10% of it's forces in Iraq.

So what have the insurgence done? Nothing.
1. They own no territory.
2. Thousands are dead or in prison.
3. They can't walk around freely.
4. Foriegn fighters would rather go to Afganistan so the
number of suicide bombers and insugence in general is
dwindling. There are more Crips in the U.S. than al-Qaida in
the world.

Answer 5

Lost the war? We defeated the 4th. largest military in the world "Iraq" in 2 months, 1991. Then 2003, defeated Iraq in 3 weeks. US military could wipe off any country off the map anytime it wants to. Now a political victory might be hard to come by. Its obvious that you never served in the US military and
you are more about propaganda, than real facts. One platoon of Marines against 100 terrorist, who do you think would meet Allah first? the towel heads! Arab countries would still be living in the
sand and in caves, if wasn't for USA and UK. If its so bad here, leave our country.

Answer 6

This war has not been lost. This war is now a police action. The United States is fighting this war with one had tied behind it's back in it's efforts to become more "culturally sensitive". Personally, I could not care less about cultural norms. That is not to say I do not respect and even admire cultures far more advanced than the United States. However, I have no respect for a culture whose sole purpose in life is to destroy me, my family, my faith and my nation just because I am not muslim. This war was fought partly for oil, partly for hedgemony in the middle east. There is no denying that. However, The United States is not to blame for the war that was thrust upon it. Even if the United States stayed away from middle eastern affairs, we would still be to blame for the mess most middle eastern countries made of themselves. What no one understands, or wants to, or is too cowardly to understand is that these series of wars against the United States on the part of al-Qaeda, Iran, and Iraq are merely extensions of the Crusades in the eyes of a majority of muslims. Now, I will never deny that Bush invaded partly for oil. My only problem with him is that he restricted it to just one country. He should have went for the gold and taken out syria and iran as well. The Democrats, the Leftists, the remnants of the old Communist guard in Cuba, South America, and China are all praying for the United States to lose because they know we have one of the greatest civilizations in the histroy of human kind. Rome did not even have it so good. It would also be the death knell for modern leftist thought and theory if the United States wrecks militant islam, being that both ideologies are different in various aspects, yet are also cut from the same cloth. As for the islamic culture, although I feel it is interesting to study from a historical perspective, the plain fact of the matter is that islam has failed, albeit miserably, in its attempts to dominate whichever culture it deems sub-human: which are all cultures. It has contributed absolutely nothing in the way of advancing the human race. Militant-Terroristic Islamic ideology is the primary export of a culture who murders men, women, and children with one hand, and holds out the other hand to the world expecting monetary appeasement. Time is with the United States however, and this islamic movement is doomed to complete failure. They said in World War 2 that the Japanese kamikaze were unstoppable. Name one that harasses a country today. The kamikaze were wiped out. The Nazis were exterminated, Communism is collapsing slowly on all fronts. Militant Islam will endure the same fate. Now, many people feel our rights are being taken away. I for one, have not noticed anything abnormal or restrictive other than the numerous occasions I have had to show my driver's license at various institutions. If this is what everyone is complaining about, then my advice would be to just shut up, pack up, and leave. I am certain that China, Venezuela, Cuba, and the entire dictator-endorsing, oil/blood-drenched middle east would be a couple of steps short of welcoming to most sympathizers, and thats putting it lightly. The American people must awake themselves from the complacent stupor in which they have put themselves and take the war to the terrorists and other subversive elements in this country once and for all. As for the armchair liberals who feel peace is the only way, I do agree-in theory. Unfortunately, militant islamists see the issue only two ways: join or die. Now, I and most Christians the world over, and in this country, refuse to subscribe to that train of thought. This war is not lost. It will continue, and continue in the defence of all faiths that islam deems unworthy of existence. If the United States is now evil for that, then I'm throwing in my lot with the Dark Side. If people cannot tolerate living in a free nation such as ours, just take the advice that Alec Baldwin gave in the 1992 movie GlenGarry Glen Ross: "If you don't like it, LEAVE". If militant islam wants a rehash of the Crusades, then so be it. This world, in my opinion, is not big enough for the both of us. Deus Lo Volt.

Answer 7

Until Bush is out of office, continue folly. But, hey, when was the last time someone learned from history? Remember the Russian/Afghanistan conflict? Has anyone learned from that? Or how about Rome?

Answer 8

There is a fine line between not approving of our military intervention and being a down right traitor.

Answer 9

We won the war in three weeks. This is the occupation to secure a government in Iraq. I don't believe we have lost the occupation yet either. You can tell a Republican response from a Democrats on here by the attitude of winning or self-loathing!

Answer 10

May I ask where you got your information? Must have missed that news article. You sound like you think the US STARTED this war. The US, the US, the US; what about the terrorists, the radicals, the evil people that murder, decapitate innocent people, torture people, etc., etc. No one says that much about them, do they?