yes, i know I already posted this question this morning....but i added some details that i wanted you all to read and respond to. NO JUDGEMENT HERE...just simply looking for your responses/point of view...thanks!
the reason i ask this, is because last night i was watching this program on north korea, and how people there are sent to prison camps for professing their faith, they said there are over 300,000 believers in camps TODAY becuase of who they choose to worship. Anyways, the story was this lady was in there and as she was being hit and kicked and beaten, she said she felt the presence of Jesus and she felt her body lift up in the air. she said she could even see her body below her being beaten but didnt feel any pain. she knew that she was going to be tortured, and the other prisoners prayed for her, and she said that she knows that the power of prayer that day saved her life.
2006-11-13 07:45:58 · 32 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
No don't believe in miracles. As I said in your previous question... the vision could very well be her being dilusional after being beaten. What do you think? What details did you add?
2006-11-13 07:48:26 · answer #1 · answered by Existence 3 · 5⤊ 1⤋
Nice story, but not only is it just a story (she could easily be lying), she wouldn't think it was Jesus unless she'd heard about Jesus, and what she describes is called an out of body experience, which although uncommon isn't a miracle, it's the mind's response to lacking oxygen which creates vivid hallucinations or traumatic dissociation.
By definition a miracle is something that can't happen in reality, so since you can't have any "other" realities, only hidden ones, the very concept is foreign to thought and reason, miracles can't happen. If something new happened, then we would attempt to understand it, quantify it, and we would attempt to integrate it into our picture of the universe, but so far nothing like that has occurred to even give scientists a whiff of consideration.
2006-11-13 07:59:29 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Once your brain gets hit several times you do hallucinate, I hope you know that. Just like if you're out in a desert and you hallucinte water. Same idea, different surroundings/reasoning behind it. And to answer your quesiton, no. There are no miracles. A miracle would be if Darwin stuck his hand out of the grave and shoved an Origin of Species book in every religious person's mouth. THEN I would believe in miracles!
2006-11-13 08:10:21 · answer #3 · answered by untilyoucamealong04 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
sure, I do position self assurance in miracles and characteristic been on the receiving end of God's fantastic healing, to boot as seeing miracles elsewhere. Your comments remember to concepts Mark 6 v 5 -- Jesus did not carry out many miracles in His living house city because human beings did not have self assurance. possibly that is because human beings do not anticipate miracles to ensue that they don't see them of their lives.
2016-11-23 19:55:45 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
She was delusional. The human mind is a powerful thing. It is called a placebo effect. Wanting to disconnect caused her to disconnect. Thinking god would let her did help her, but no gods helped her. Every miracle has an explanation. The only problem is that when no one knows that explanation, they like to say "god did it"
Just to sum this all up: An old woman being beaten is proof of an omnipotent benevolent god. Nice!
2006-11-13 07:51:13 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
That was a very sweet story. North Korea is certainly a bad country for Christians, but mainly because it is a bad country for everyone (except Kim Jong Il). The answer, however, is still a boring 'No'.
2006-11-13 09:48:10 · answer #6 · answered by ThePeter 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, I don't.
In fact, I've had the EXACT same experience this woman had (being beaten, feeling a deep sense of peace, a shift of perception to looking down on myself). It was just before my first out-of-body experience where I met with Fenrir Wolf of ancient Norse religion.
I understand it, however, for what it is. An endorphin rush that leads to an altered state of mind, nothing more. There's no miracle to it.
2006-11-13 07:47:25 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋
No. And by the way, as recently as 2 months ago, neurological researchers were able to induce "out of body" experiences with the simple application if stimuli to specific parts of the brain.
2006-11-13 07:51:20 · answer #8 · answered by JAT 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
What you describe gra typical defense mechanism. The mind mentally separates itself from the body during trauma to escape pain.
I'm not atheist. I believe in God. But i believe It is pretty much passive. So no, i don't believe in miracles.
2006-11-13 07:59:58 · answer #9 · answered by Byron A 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
roflmao. Why do Christians ask that? For the millionth time on here, use a dictionary. Atheist means NO GOD NO GOD NO GOD NO GOD NO GOD NO GOD NO GOD NO GOD NO GOD NO GOD.
Why then would an atheist believe in miracles considering that miracles are of a religious nature?
A little logic goes a long way.
2006-11-13 08:05:13 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋