I'm really curious if this is the norm or just a fluke. But a few years ago at my great-grandma's funeral, the officiant spent 20-30 mins of the memorial service giving a sermon on procreation and how it was sinful, nothng else. I was the only one who found this to be very odd. True, she had several children as was common back then. But it seemed really bizarre and out of place, yet no one else questioned it. Is that the norm for a funeral sermon (she was a devout Baptist but I'm not sure if/how that even applies) or was this minister totally off his rocker?
2006-11-13
06:44:29
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It would be one thing if she requested it but she didn't. The pastor was a random person they picked who was available that day. He was early 20something, barely out of the seminary. Never met her before so didn't know anything about her.
Like I said, no one else but me was offended by it.
I'm guessing (hoping?) he was embarrassed by it because he didn't hang around at all afterwards and didn't even go to speak at the cemetary afterwards like any other pastor would.
People are strange...
2006-11-13
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Mav think minister chose the wrong place and time for sermon, unless your great-grandmother requested it.
2006-11-13 06:48:56
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answered by Mav here! 4
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That does seem odd! Most of the time, the minister will speak kindly about the person who passed away, and offer words of hope and comfort to the family. I've never heard of a funeral "sermon" and especially not one about how wrong procreation is! And I grew up Baptist. I think the minister, as you said, was off his rocker. lol
2006-11-13 06:52:05
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answered by peachy78 5
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I am a double p.k. and have attended enough funerals, and listened to my parents speak regarding their philosophies for writing funeral sermons, eulogies etc...and I can tell you that
THIS OFFICIENT SUCKED!
The point and purpose of a eulogy is to give comfort to the grieving, and hopefully in a way very personalized not only for the grievers, but for the individual who passed away. This is made most possible when the pastor knew the person well in their congregation. It can be harder for pastors when people who have only shown up on Christmas or Easter waltz up and say, "Hey, could you perform this funeral for my 3rd cousins, twice removed, ex mother in laws...etc..." However, most pastors develop a fairly standard comfort giving message, that though the pastors recognize to be not as effective as messages given to people they know well for people they knew well, they still work.
What this officient did was horrible. Taking the pulpit to deliver some selfish philosophy and giving the grievers the cold shoulder when they most needed comfort and an individualized message. Ack.
Please tell me that this person wasn't a pastor!
2006-11-13 06:52:48
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answered by Anonymous
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I don't know that the minister was off his rocker or not, but the sermon was completely inappropriate for the venue. You do not lecture people at a funeral. A funeral is meant to grieve a loss and celebrate the life that's passed on.
2006-11-13 06:56:12
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answered by Erin 7
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These people are pretty strange Cinnamon.They think that everything is a sin.
The first thing that someone should be considering is whether the idea of sin is actually real.
If God is supposed to be perfect how could She have made anything or anyone that wasn't perfect.
Think about it. The idea of sin assumes certain things about God that seem highly unlikely.
First it assumes a God who is too incompetent to organize a simple educational field excursion and figure out a way to get all of the students home safely.
How likely is this that God would not be smart enough to come up with a plan for our salvation that is going to work?
It also assumes that God must have created us imperfect if we are sinners.
One might assume that God would be able to create someone perfect each and every time if he chose to. Assuming God is capable of this, then it follows logically that we must be perfect creations if we are actually creations of this perfect God.
Unless of course you are saying that God chose to create us imperfect.
If God created us imperfect then anything that may go wrong is Gods fault, not ours. This seems a bit illogical at best so I think that we need to assume that What God creates would have to be perfect.
If this is the case and Gods creations are perfect, then nothing that we can do could change what God created perfect and make it imperfect unless we think that we are more powerful than God is.
How likely is it that we the creation could be more powerful than the creator. I personally find this idea somewhat amusing, and a bit absurd.
Religion tells us that God is perfect. If this is true then it could hardly be logically for Gods creations to be considered to be anything less than perfect.
If this is the case and we are perfect creations of a perfect God then Nothing that we can ever do could possibly change this perfection that God willed, unless we were so powerful that our choices could override and change the will of God.
How likely is that????
Think about it.
The idea of sin is simple nonsense; a lie made up about God by religion.
Love and blessings
don
Source --- Course in miracles
2006-11-13 06:49:23
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answered by Anonymous
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2016-10-17 05:45:18
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Yeah, that is pretty odd. I mean, historically, Christianity has been the biggest proponent of procreation. It's also odd why someone would give a sermon on the "evils" of procreation at a funeral.
2006-11-13 06:46:52
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answered by Nowhere Man 6
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Maybe you have been chosen to look into this.
Maybe go to the "officiant" (don't know what religion that is) and ask some questions to this minister.........what was his message at your great grandmothers funeral.
And if your grandmother was a devout baptist, which church did she go to.....maybe you can find another minister(don't know what they are called in the Baptist faith) and have a memorial service at her burial plot for a better blessing to your gr-grandmother.
Even if no one else goes but you, it would give you peace.
2006-11-13 07:35:45
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answered by Anonymous
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VERRRRRY odd to me. Neither sex, the enjoyment of sex, or procreation is sinful inside of a marriage, but even if it was about fornication, it would be a strange sermon for a funeral. I attended a Baptist church for most of my life, and they certainly don't have any unbiblical doctrines such as this one.
Scratching my head in bewilderment.
2006-11-13 06:50:20
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answered by Anonymous
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This is odd.
I am a Baptist. I've not heard anything like that before.
Been to lots of funeral of various beliefs. Never a sermon like that.
I feel sorry for her kids.
2006-11-13 06:46:10
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answered by King 5
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