why do the media and members of the public slate out men and women fighting for our country?

Question

in america, even tho most ppl disagree with the war, they treat their armed forces with the upmost respect, and regarded as heros. in this country however they are slated and frowned upon by ppl who couldnt even do the job. they put their lives on the line daily for their poorly paid JOB. and get no respect at all. howmany other ppl can say they do that for a living? yet the same ppl go on to call them murderers! they work in extremely stressful situations and watch their friends die under rules of engagement that dont work only to be lucky enough to come home not in pieces or being carried off a plane in a box, to ignorant ppl who if a war broke out in this country would expect them to fight for them?

the reports i've read and spking to ppl indicate they seem to blame the men and women in the forces and going as far as saying they should refuse to do their job!

i'm talking about the uk armed forces getting a raw deal back in the uk.

Answer 1

In my experience, those who slate and berate the armed forces are the ones who haven't got the balls to put a uniform on their backs and sign up for the armed forces themselves.
They're quick to have a go at the forces and treat them like dirt, but they all come rallying round when the sh!t hits the fan like a bunch of bl00dy hypocrits.

I think Rudyard Kipling summed it up best in his poem, Tommy.

I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o'beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:

O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's ``Thank you, Mister Atkins,'' when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's ``Thank you, Mr. Atkins,'' when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!

For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.

Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy how's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints:
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;

While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind,"
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.

For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country," when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
But Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!

Answer 2

I sure the hell don't know who you've been listening to or reading, but I think most Americans, even those against the war, still support our men and women in uniform and appreciate the job they're doing in Iraq.

If you're from the San-Francisco/ Oakland area, I can kind of see where you're coming from because I do listen to a news/talk radio station out there that does have some hosts who seem to enjoy bashing Bush and our military.

Answer 3

I hope you are talking about America cause this country needs to hear from people like you! You just spoke for a large majority of people who can't get their voice out in support of the war cause the media here doesn't want it known. They choose to not only suppress those of us who feel like you do but actually seem to support the enemy sometimes! Our media is controlled by 75% liberals and I think the rest by democrats and so you hear very very little positive about the war. This has actually swayed the publics opinion on the war and have turned the country against it. It is a real shame and they wonder why our enemy laughes at us!

Answer 4

I don't think that's necessarily true. The negativity is pointed directly in the direction of Tony Blair and his fan club. Those poor soldiers don't have a say in where they work do they. I feel sorry for them if anything, being made to fight an unjust war.

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Well you cant blame the actual people doing the job, the Armed Forces works with a 'top down' attitude, where those at the top make the decisions and those at the top are therefore accountable. Maybe I haven't spoken to the same people as you have.

Answer 5

alot of people in America don't treat American soldiers with any respect. but for the most part your right most people over here love us. that's because they realize that its because of people in the military they are free. we don't ask to be treated any better than anybody else. alot of it is because our country is so young and people remember the sacrifices our ancestors made in the military for us. plus there are alot of memorials for veterans over here to help people remember. and most of your average everyday Americans know someone that's been in the military or still is. however there are still places in America the veterans are not entirely welcomed. we went to Ithaca new york and were told not to wear our uniform in the city because people were spitting on us and throwing blood on us. i wore my uniform anyways. because I'm proud to be an American soldier. and if someone doesn't like it they can kiss my a@@.

Answer 6

In America we allow everyone to have an opinion and to express it. This is one of the very things our soldiers fight for. Unfortunately this doesn't guarantee that those expressing their opinion are intelligent, thoughtful, and insightful. In fact it guarantees that those that are ignorant, uneducated, and just plain stupid can express themselves as loudly and as often as someone will listen.
Those of us that disagree with them just have to raise our voices a bit louder is all.
So this is me raising my voice, to all our men and women in the armed forces- THANK YOU FOR DOING A JOB MANY CAN'T UNDERSTAND! I FOR ONE AM GRATEFUL!

Answer 7

agreed its pretty sad, if a young soldier gets shot at twenty years old he is never going to see 22 or his kids grow he will not be playing footi in the garden with his son is he, he believed right or wrong in defending his country, that commands respect it must.

Answer 8

If I was to hear anyone saying bad things about Servicemen in battle anywhere I would smash them in the face!

They are wonderful people......God Bless them all!

Answer 9

You are a big liar. There are no reports that slate the good UK troops. We slate the politicos for sending them but they always have our sympathy. Name one site where we can read this.