If Jesus Died For Our Sins Than...?

Question

I'm Jewish, but I was wondering what the Christian view on this is. I know that Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah, and that he died for our sins. But if he died for our sins, and if the Messiah came, then how come there are still bad people in the world. Also, how could the actual Messiah die? I'm not trying to be mean to Christians, I'm just wondering what you guys believe.

Answer 1

I'll try my best to summarize it. Sin enslaves us and leads to a spiritual death. When Jesus died on the cross for us, it was redemptive because He is God. If He were not God, His death on the cross would have been meaningless to us. The intense suffering that Jesus endured for us shows us that we have a God who can empathize with our pain and sufferings. The ugliness of the scourging and crucifixion of an innocent man by sinful men represents the ugliness of sin and how sin leads to death. The Resurrection of Jesus on the 3rd day was to show us that He is God and could conquer death, not just for Himself, but for all of us who are willing to take up our crosses and follow Him. For those who are willing to do this, Jesus offers eternal life in the joy of the presence of God and the saints in Heaven forever.

Answer 2

Thanks for your honest question. To your first question: When the Messiah was on earth, he preached repentence and called everyone back to the Eternal One. If everybody would have obeyed this call, a call similar to those, wich where given to the jewish people by their prophets, than the kingdom of G'd would have come immediatlly. But, as aour scriptues say: John 3:19"... the light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil .." this is the reason, why the good news and the call of repemntence was only followed by some. Yes and the evilness of man was so great, that they murdered the one, G'd had sent and nailed Him to the cross. But the wisdom of G'd is far greater than the thoughts of man and G'd used this evilness of mankind for good. As you can read in the book of the jewish prophet Isaiah, capter 53: 1-12, G'd had foreseen all of this and used it for the purpose to prepare an atonement for sin. With the death of the Messiah on the cross an aotonement was given. It's now free to everyone to receive this grace of G'd. But only thoose how aske for this grace in prayer, will experience it, will get forgiveness and the new life. This is the reason, why the world is in the state it is in right now. Only few people are willing to hear and obey. G'd does not force this grace on us. Like in Eden, G'd likes to have people, who from their heart, by their own free will, will love and obey.

To your question, who the actual Messiah could die: The christian scriptures teach, that the Messiah willingly gave up his live. Nobody was able to take it from him - you are very right on this point. But he, as the servent of the Most High, was willing to give it in obiedience and for G'd's purpose.

Thanks for your question and thanks for taking the time to let me explain it. Have a blessed week.

Answer 3

Jesus' death was not intended to instantly erradicate sin from the world, like some instant gift.
Tell me if I am right on this, but in the Jewish religion, you must atone for you sins by sacrificing an animal to God, following a very specific step by step process right?
YOu know from OT study that Messiah will come - well, Jesus came, he fulfilled the OT prophesy regarding his coming, and he presented himself as the perfect sacrifice. After 3 days, He rose again, overcoming death and sin. It is therefore no longer necessary to atone for our sins in any manner, let alone sacrifice an animal for it. By doing so - all he asks is that we accept that He has willingly given Himself as an atonement in our place (because before that we could not have stood in the presence of God), and that we follow him. He IS the atonement.
I am not quite clear on your question about "how could the Messiah die?" - does this mean that you believe that He WOULD not die? or that he would save us all WITHOUT dying? Jesus presented himself as a human, and as a human, he suffered for us, on our behalf and died. When you sacrifice an animal to atone for your sins, the animal is dead. It dies. Jesus did the same thing. You must repeat your sacrifice on a yearly basis. Jesus died once for all - so that we would no longer be bound by a yearly sacrifice, and can now live in freedom.

I hope this helps - it's a bit garbled I'm sure and I also deeply apologize if my understanding of the Jewish culture is inaccurate in any way - like you, I'm only speaking of what I know. One of these days - I would love to study it further.

Answer 4

good question, I hope that I do not offend you with my answer because that is not my intention.
the Jews of the Roman occupation had been so persecuted that freedom from Rome was the daily cry to God,and eventully the idea of a Messiah changed from the suffering servant of Isaiah to a militeristic Messiah, and this became a national belief that could not be shaken and not even by Christ Himself as far as the authorities of the Temple and Zealots were concerned, to them the Messiah would be a warrior king who would drive the Pagans from Israel, and the Jewish people would be masters of the earth.
Yet nowhere in sacred scripture (Torah) or the rest of the bible is there any mention of God`s Messiah filling this role.
when Jesus tried to tell the peoples of His time that He had come to free mankind from the death of sin and the power of the evil one by preaching, that the kingdom of God was one of love and forgiveness this did not fit the preconcieved idea the Jews had of the conquering Messiah, and so He was rejected by many and because He was seen as weak ,then He could not have been the Christ, the Son of the living God in their opinion.
by His sacrifice on the cross Jesus took upon Himself the curse of the law, and all the sins of the world past,present and future were laid upon Him, and this is why He is the sacrificial Lamb of God,the new and everlasting covenant that saves man from eternal damnation and makes all who believe in Him,heirs to the kingdom of God.
but this sacrifice of Himself is misunderstood even today,it is the fulfillment of the promise in Genesis that God would restore mankind to Himself, and in doing so we are returned to Gods friendship and made whole.
we are still sinners in our nature the sacrifice of the cross was not intended to make us sinless but to enable us to turn from sin and through the blood of the Lamb be forgiven every time we fall.
that is why we who follow Jesus need no animal sacrifice for sin but have ready forgiveness by turning to Christ in repentence.

I hope this has helped you a little, Shalom.

Answer 5

Jesus Christ, the Messiah, Yesuah, came to provide a better sacrifice than the Jewish people already had. Up to this time, they had been offering the blood of bulls and sheep and rams to cover their sin. The High priest would offer a sacrifice for all the people once a year... and others would come with their own sacrifice several times a year. They had to repeat this over and over again. Jesus came, as the Lamb of God, the perfect sacrifice offered once and for all time. His sacrifice made a way for all who would accept it, and provide cleansing for their lives. To really understand it, you need to read the book of Hebrews in the Christian New Testament. It was written to explain to the Jewish people the purpose of Jesus coming and dying.
Just because he provided the cleansing for sin for mankind does not mean all sin is therefore removed. It just means it is available. Sin still exists. Mankind is still born in sin. Satan still tempts mankind. Men yield to temptation. Each person must choose for himself, to accept Jesus Christ as Messiah, to accept his cleansing and forgiveness. Then he must determind to follow God's standards.

Answer 6

First, thanks for asking in a respectful manner.

The messiah coming and still being unbelievers in the world and even "bad people" are unrelated according to Christian views. Freewill still allows people to reject Him.... In fact Christians still struggle with daily temptation even after accepting him and being born again, no matter what they say.

The other point is how could the Messiah die?? He did not in the spiritual realm which is the important one. He did physically, which is nothing next to spiritually.

A perfect sacrifice needed to be made in order to allow others to the father, other than just Jews. So Jesus did a "passover" for the entire world, when a spotless lamb bleeds to death to cover the judgement from killing a house, in Judiasm.

Jesus was the perfect lamb and sacrificed himself, so anyone under him is in a house that judgement will be passed over.

Keep in mind this is according to my view on Christianity.

Hope that makes sense, thanks for a respectful question!!

David

Answer 7

There are still bad people because there is still the devil influencing people. Jesus died for our sins to save us from them when our judgment comes, not to rid the world of all sin. The Messiah's body died, not the messiah himself.

Answer 8

he was transferred to a human womb and became a man so he could and did die...
Jesus is the King of the Messianic Kingdom...he is ruling in the didst of his enemies. There are some things he has to do before Kingdom power is in full swing around the globe.....one thing is a fight between Jesus and the faithful angels versus satan and his invisible followers...The scriptures tell us that satan will be bound and thrown in the abyss for 1000. To be let loose once again after mankind has reached perfection as was the original purpose.
The Jews were God's people. They kept turning against the true God. God sent Jesus to earth to die for mankinds sins...The Jews killed this messenger and prophet. That is when God turned his attentions away from the Jews and told them he would take out of the nations a people for his name..."Jehovah."

Answer 9

Simple. We are all born in sin and are therefore unworthy of the Kingdom of Heaven! Jesus came to Earth to pay for all our sins so that those who believe in him will not perish but have everlasting life. He came to show that you may kill the body, but soul & spirit will move on. And thats how he was able to retake his body after he had been dead for 3 days! I believe he's coming back much like it's been prophicied!
And he's taking the good people of Earth along with him! Including those who unawarely live their lives within his 2 commandments.The planet will then be recycled, and we will come back and inhabit it once more, and start from scratch! Thats what I believe in. I'm afraid not many people interpret the scriptures the way I do!

Answer 10

If there were no sinners then Christ would of not needed to die for our sins. Past, Present and Future. Without sin we would all still be living in a sinless world (no bad people).The Messiah died because he was a man, without sin, he was the perfect lamb(sacrificed) for all mankind. Yes, he could of called 10,000 angels to destroy the world and set him free, but he chose to suffer and die because he wanted all of us to have a chance at salvation(eternal life) in heaven. We can not comprehend the full range of God's infinite love for us, but he did create us, that we can understand, if you think about how a Mother and Father love their children, we are Gods children. He wants what is best for us, just as Mother and Fathers do. I believe because I feel his presence in my life everyday, I talk to him and he does answer in his time, (the right time).

Answer 11

Well those are good questions *smile*. Jesus died on a cross to pay for our sins, because there is no one living that does not have sin. That means that we are all sinners. Only those who accept Jesus as Lord will be given entrance into heaven, because God cannot look upon sin, and the blood of Christ covers the sins of those who believe in Him....not those who reject Him. It doesn't mean we all of a sudden are "perfect" people who never do anything wrong; it means His righeousness is imputed to our account, for all of time, and when we stand before the Father at judgment, He will see His son's righteousness, not our failings.

Jesus was God made flesh. He was fully God, and fully man. The man died on the cross, yes, but Jesus was risen from the dead, and sits at the right hand of the Father in heaven, and will come again. The Jewish people, if I am not mistaken, were expecting a "Messiah" who would come and destroy those who were persecuting them and holding them as prisoners on earth. That is not how Jesus came the first time; He came in humility, and to give His life as a ransom for many.

But He will come again, and the next time He will be the Lion of Judah, who brings all things under subjection to His righteous rule. I pray to God that He can awaken you to who Jesus is...and that you can see and rejoice that indeed, He did come for you.