Not unbiblical, just unpopular to the "world"...
Total Depravity : does not mean that everybody is an ax murderer..it means ALL are guilty of some sin
Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
(Rom 3:19) Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
(Rom 3:20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
UNCONDITIONAL Election...means you can't earn your way to heaven...goes hand in hand with total depravity..
(Joh 1:11) He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
(Joh 1:12) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
(Joh 1:13) Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
(Eph 1:5) Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
(Eph 1:6) To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
Limited Atonement:
(1Co 8:6) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
(1Co 8:7) Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
Act 10:41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Mat 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
(Joh 10:26) But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
(Joh 10:27) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
(Joh 10:28) And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
(Joh 10:29) My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
(Joh 10:30) I and my Father are one.
Irresistable Grace:
(Gal 1:10) For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
(Gal 1:11) But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
(Gal 1:12) For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
(Gal 1:13) For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
(Gal 1:14) And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
(Gal 1:15) But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
(Gal 1:16) To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Perseverance of the Saint's.. merely echoes the above (total depravity & uncond. election)..we are Christian's not by any great or good thing we do; but, by the will of God...who can stand against the Almighty God???
(Joh 10:29) My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
2Ti 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
(Heb 10:10) By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
(Heb 10:11) And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
(Heb 10:12) But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(Heb 10:13) From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
(Heb 10:14) For by one offering he hath perfected forever them that are sanctified.
(Heb 10:15) Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
(Heb 10:16) This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
(Heb 10:17) And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
(Heb 10:18) Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
(Heb 10:19) Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
(Heb 10:20) By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
(Heb 10:21) And having a high priest over the house of God;
(Heb 10:22) Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
Do calvanist or other protestants actually believe this?
I do.
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