"God did not make us sinners, we made ourselves sinners by being born into this world, and for the sins we have committed."
Yeah, I fixed your spelling and typos for you, you-know-who. You're welcome:-)
2006-11-11 16:51:20 · 20 answers · asked by AVATARD 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Hey, I had one tell me the other day that Ice Ages happened before the earth was created..........how beautiful is that?
2006-11-11 17:16:36 · answer #1 · answered by Mudcat 3 · 3⤊ 1⤋
i didn't ask to be born, so technically, my parents are the sinners, and i became a sinner when i fathered a child...
and technically, adam and eve werent sinners when they were "born"... they became sinners after Eve just had to eat that damn apple.... like the GARDEN of Eden had no other food....
so, no - this comment is not a true statement. you cannot label someone a sinner for an act that they did not commit, and in which they served only a passive, in voluntary role.
2006-11-12 00:55:39 · answer #2 · answered by Heath 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yup.
Kind of a round-about way of looking at it though.
Frankly, I don't recall ever being asked if I wanted to be born, much less born with a sinful nature. But, I am grateful that a sacrifice was made for my sins before I was ever even thought of(so far as my parents are concerned).
2006-11-12 00:55:08 · answer #3 · answered by azar_and_bath 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
oh don't drive yourself nuts trying to figure out how Christianity reasons a new born baby can be sinful. the very premise that everyone is automatically destined for eternal damnation simply by being born into existence and the only way to avoid the inevitability of infinite torture is to believe in a human blood sacrifice screams absurdity. if "God" is really like that he's one twisted wackadoo.
2006-11-12 01:08:58 · answer #4 · answered by nebtet 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, not just by being born. Sin is doing something you know is wrong. Human laws can't be bypassed by pleading ignorance, but spiritual law is that if you know something is wrong and you do it anyway, you make your spirit dirty.
Hey aren't you the guy from System of a Down?
2006-11-12 01:11:25 · answer #5 · answered by anyone 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There is both truth and bias in your quotation.
No, God did not create humans for the purpose of sinning, but gave us free will and reason that we may overcome the sins of the past by learning. If we choose to remain ignorant, to learn from history, we doom ourselves to repeat the same mistakes.
Until we learn, we continue to incarnate into a world where we are conditioned to be selfish and divided against ourselves. So you could blame the human condition on humans who refuse to change, or to learn from the past, and to rise above to build a better future free from the shackles of corruption, hatred, and jealously.
If you believe in karma, in natural cycles of cause and effect, you could say that humans create our own misery by clinging to the past with unforgiveness and judgment, so that we repeat these same mistakes over and over. However, if you believe in divine grace and forgiveness, you may choose to focus instead on the proven process of accepting this grace to break the karmic cycle of sin and suffering, and to recover spiritually. The many cases of people who have healed broken relationships and overcome past ills collectively change the world by breaking free from the vicious cycle of retribution and otherwise endless suffering.
Whichever way you believe about God's will and purpose for humanity, the quotation you provided speaks to our condition.
2006-11-12 01:06:29 · answer #6 · answered by emilynghiem 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes, that makes sense.
God initially made man without sin. Sin was our fault. Now we are born in sin due to our ancestry.
That is my interpretation, any ways.
I think its good to remember eternal time and linear time are completely different for this quote.
Have a great night!
2006-11-12 00:54:54 · answer #7 · answered by judge_smails_sir 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I read that in the question it was responding to and my jaw dropped. I guess since sex is a sin then the result is a sinner? maybe? jeez, who knows with some of these people... Religion is sheer madness.
2006-11-12 00:59:46 · answer #8 · answered by ChooseRealityPLEASE 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
We made ourselves sinners but not for simply being born, that would be a tough one to avoid.
2006-11-12 00:53:18 · answer #9 · answered by keyaccessories 2 · 1⤊ 2⤋
no i don't consider it a true statement. people dub themselves sinners. people dub others sinners. god doesn't have anything to do with it.
2006-11-12 01:02:13 · answer #10 · answered by q 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
What did you ask?
What did you say?
I shoulda known better than to be born?
I caused my own life to be sinful, and this is all my fault?
Okey Dokey!
I like ya!
2006-11-12 01:02:39 · answer #11 · answered by all_weatherconditions 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋