Back to square 1: if God won't throw us into a lake of fire unless we've sinned, then how can we say Jesus...

Question

.. died to save us from our sins? Can somebody please help me to make sense of this? Because I just don't get it.

Thank you:)

Jesus either saved us or not, right?
Or, did God give up his firstborn for nothing?

BRO JHN: Very nice assumptions:-)

Can you tell me a little about me???

Answer 1

The very fact that a place called Hell exists, and is described as an eternal lake of fire, pretty much throws any notion of an all-loving god out the window.
And that notion hits every branch of the stupid tree on the way down.

And when it reaches the bottom, it falls into a pool.
And that pool is covered in oil.
And the oil suddenly lights on fire.

Answer 2

Let me explaion by first making the case that we have sinned and we need a savior. Let me ask you a few questions.......

Would you consider yourself to be a good person?

Have you ever lied (even once--fibs, white lies, etc.)? Ever stolen (anything--the value is irrelevant)? Jesus said, "Whoever looks upon a woman to lust after her, has committed adultery already with her in his heart." Have you ever looked with lust? If you have said "Yes" to these three questions, by your own admission, you are a lying, thieving, adulterer at heart; and the BIble says that "he who hates his brother is a murderer." Have you ever hated someone?
beaing in mind that Nothing you have ever done is hid from his Holy eyes, woulfd you be innocent or guilty on the day of Judgement? Listen to your conscience. You know that you will be guilty, and therefore end up in Hell. The Bible says God is the Holy and Just Judge of all the universe and because of this, he must punish sin wherever it is found. That’s not God’s will. He provided a way for you and I to be forgiven.
He sent His Son to take our punishment: "God commended His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." He was bruised for our iniquities. Jesus then rose from the dead and defeated death. Inother words, we broke the Law and Jesus paid our fine with his own life blood. Your own so-called “goodness” can’t get you into heaven any more than mine could. Jesus is the only way to Heaven. He is the "Door," the only "mediator." There is salvation in no other name, and If you will repent (turn from sin) and place your faith and trust in Jesus, God will forgive you of all sins, past, present, and futer and he will grant you the gift of everlasting life. he will do this not because you or I deserve it, But because Jesus died for us.
God Bless
WDJD

Answer 3

If your drowning, and I trough you a life preserver you will be pulled out of the water or you will die.You will be saved from death,and should be afraid to go back to the water,because now,you know how dangerous it is.Jesus pulls us out of death by sin.Once He does this it should be like the water.There should be appreciation shown to the rescuer and a fear that would keep you from returning to that deadly state.Yes we might again fall in the water but we won't jump into it.It's the same with sin we might make mistakes but we won't willfully seek to do evil again.God looks at our intentions and know the deep down desire of our hearts and judges us accordingly.But God also knows when we willingly give ourselves over to sin,and for this there isn't instant grace as some think there is.There is a reward for unrighteousness as well as there is for the good one does.I don't know what kind of friends you have but I hope their positive people who help you walk closer to God and not draw you away.Sorry if that sounds confusing,but I felt as if God wanted me to share that with you.

Answer 4

All people have sinned. (rebellion against God - sin).

Because of this, sinners need a means of salvation (without salvation, all people will be sent to eternal torment - Lake of Fire)

Jesus (God in body of a man) was sent into the world to die as a means of salvation to save all people (sinners). (No other worthy sacrifice than God Himself).

Some choose salvation (eternal life with God),...others do not (eternal suffering because of rebellion).

Answer 5

Jesus came to save us from "original sin"....the supposed original sin of eating the forbidden fruit in the garden of Eden.....It was not that he died for the sins that we commit in our current lifetime. Hope that helps.

Answer 6

God sent His ONLY son to earth to suffer death for us so we don't have to. The only catch is, we have to accept that and believe it. Jesus died to save everyone, but not everyone chooses to be saved. Choosing Jesus is the only qualification for salvation. If we refuse Him, then we are not saved, because we cannot save ourselves.

Answer 7

The Bible tells us in Ecclesiastes 7:20, "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right and never sins." Also, the Bible says in Galatians 2 that we are not justified on account of the law. The reason is that the law is spiritual as the Bible tells us in Romans 7:14. You see, His words are spirit. Everything that the LORD GOD does is in the spiritual. Flesh and blood cannot obey spiritual laws.

Flesh and blood cannot live eternally. The Bible says so in I Corinthians 15:50. Our spirit that can live with GOD eternally died to the LORD GOD in the Garden of Eden. To reverse that, Jesus Christ died in flesh and blood and resurrected in the Spiritual. Baptism, properly done, unites you with Jesus Christ in His death and resurrection. Romans 6: 3-10; Galatians 3:27. You are now born of water.

During His Last Supper, Jesus Christ established the New Covenant. The Bible reports: "While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples saying, 'Take and eat; this is my body.' Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them saying, 'Drink from it all of you. This is my blood of the New Covenant which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.' " Matthew 26: 26-28. If you confirm this Covenant before baptism, the promise of GOD is there in the Covenant that your sins will be forgiven. Then you are born of water and reconciled with GOD in the spiritual. Your spirit can now be led by the Spirit of GOD to do the will of GOD. Then you are born of Spirit. The Bible says: "Those who are led by the Spirit of GOD are sons of GOD." Romans 8:14.

I must remind that the Bible does not promise any one eternal life as reward for obedience to the law. Exodus 19. The only thing that can wash our sins away is the blood of Jesus Christ. "Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness." Hebrews 9:22(b).

In actual fact, the explanation lies in the banishment of Adam from spiritual life in the Garden of Eden. This is so fundamental. We shall go over it carefully. "And the LORD GOD said, 'The man has now become like one of us, knowing good from evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live for ever.' So the LORD GOD banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken." Genesis 3:22-23. The truth is that Adam was banished to life of flesh and blood to ensure that he will not live for ever. This was so because with his knowledge of good and evil, man would always do his own will and not the will of GOD. The purpose of the Mission of Jesus Christ is to put us back into the life where we are able do the will of GOD.

When Jesus comes back, everything will be destroyed. We shall all live in the spiritual. Only those who have been born of water and therefore have been forgiven their sins, and are born of Spirit, that is are led by the Spirit to do the will of GOD are in suitable condition to coexist with GOD in His Kingdom. Life outside is HELL.

Answer 8

I'm not sure where you got your info, but it's not biblical. According to scripture, we've all sinned and fall short of the glory of God. ALL need a saviour. Jesus is that saviour, or messiah. Those who acknowledge that and accept his free gift of salvation will not be eternally separated from God (i.e. sent to hell - of which there are many degrees - not all will suffer the same). God bless you. ~Nise~

Answer 9

Jesus saves us if we want to be saved. You have a choice. He offers the gift of eternal life for everyone, but you need to tell if you accept it. You have time until you die or when He comes -whatever comes first.

Answer 10

Ever heard of the Millinium?....1000 years of teaching between the Holy and Profane?...that's the real test.
Ezekiel 44:23 And they shall teach my people [the difference] between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.