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This is concerning, perhaps, the most controversial theology in Christianity. This is Calvinism versus Arminianism of thological mindsets and/or schools of thought. What do you think of the doctrine of "Unconditional" eternal security of the christian, and does the Bible, the Holy Scriptures actually teach it or not? Calvinists does believe the doctrine of eternal security to be "unconditional" while the Arminians believe the doctrine of eternal security to be "conditional." This is dealing with the slang terms of "once saved, always saved." Once a person becomes a true believer in Christ, he/she will always be a true believer in Christ, once redeemed, always redeemed thereafter. What do you think? This has caused, unfortunately, division in the Body of Christ.

2006-11-10 09:23:31 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. -2 Peter 2:10

If youre going to believe in eternal security than youre going to have to believe that the Bible was written by men like Peter that were of limited inspiration that just didnt understand salvation. However I believe the Bible was sufficiently inspired to understand the idea that salvation IS a gift from God but like any gift, it can be taken back under certain conditions! Was not Satan once in Heaven? What happened to him? Was Satan once saved always saved or can we still blaspheme God?

2006-11-10 09:45:54 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

First I'm not a Calvinist. Second, I believe in once saved always saved because, Jesus said He would NEVER leave us nor forsake us.

And, what part of ETERNAL LIFE comes to an end? If it's eternal, then it can't be stopped.

Don't listen to others trying to tell you that you'll "lose" your salvation. It is impossible. So rejoice, and praise the Lord!

2006-11-10 09:33:44 · answer #2 · answered by CJ 6 · 0 0

No, there is not anything in scripture that supports the theory that all you have to do is believe and you will be saved. The bible does mention that it is by the grace of God that you will be saved, but it also talks a lot about works, etc. Everyone of us sins and we need to continue to work out our salvation. If I do everything I can, I will still not be perfect, so it will eventually be through the grace of God I am saved (theoretically, because I am farrrrr from doing everything I know is right).

2006-11-10 09:41:41 · answer #3 · answered by straightup 5 · 0 1

Once a person is saved are they always saved? When people come to know Christ as their Savior, they are brought into a relationship with God that guarantees their salvation as eternally secure. Numerous passages of Scripture declare this fact. (a) Romans 8:30 declares, "And those He predestined, He also called; those He called, He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified." This verse tells us that from the moment God chooses us, it is as if we are glorified in His presence in heaven. There is nothing that can prevent a believer from one day being glorified because God has already purposed it in heaven. Once a person is justified, his salvation is guaranteed - he is as secure as if he is already glorified in heaven.



(b) Paul asks two crucial questions in Romans 8:33-34 "Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died more than that, who was raised to life - is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us." Who will bring a charge against God's elect? No one will, because Christ is our advocate. Who will condemn us? No one will, because Christ, the One who died for us, is the one who condemns. We have both the advocate and judge as our Savior.



(c) Believers are born again (regenerated) when they believe (John 3:3; Titus 3:5). For a Christian to lose his salvation, he would have to be un-regenerated. The Bible gives no evidence that the new birth can be taken away. (d) The Holy Spirit indwells all believers (John 14:17; Romans 8:9) and baptizes all believers into the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:13). For a believer to become unsaved, he would have to be "un-indwelt" and detached from the Body of Christ.



(e) John 3:15 states that whoever believes in Jesus Christ will "have eternal life." If you believe in Christ today and have eternal life, but lose it tomorrow, then it was never "eternal" at all. Hence if you lose your salvation, the promises of eternal life in the Bible would be in error. (f) For the most conclusive argument, I think Scripture says it best itself, "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 8:38-39). Remember the same God who saved you is the same God who will keep you. Once we are saved we are always saved. Our salvation is most definitely eternally secure!

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2006-11-10 09:39:24 · answer #4 · answered by jack 6 · 1 0

O! Good question! I'd like to know because back in the day, (as all the kids say) heathens would go back to their wild, pagan ways the minute the missionaries were out of sight after a round of forced baptisms. So I always wondered, are some of my ancestors sitting around the christian god's place REALLY TICKED that they are not going into Ragnarok with the Einherjer? Nice timing, too, since tomorrow is Einherjer day!

~Morg~

2006-11-10 09:36:08 · answer #5 · answered by morgorond 5 · 0 1

What I think is this:

When one wholeheartedly accepts salvation through Christ's blood, one is sent the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit leads and guides a person in working out his or her salvation. Some people who have accepted Christ with their mouth have not received the Holy Spirit, because they haven't--perhaps unbeknownst to them--accepted Christ with their heart. And so they are not yet saved.

There are those, too, who accept Christ wholeheartedly and then who don't heed the urgings of the Holy Spirit...who deny, justify, and ignore the working out of their salvation. This amounts--if you're asking me, which you are--to blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. If one hears God's voice and ignores it, and seeks instead to justify oneself in the eyes of the world, then one is blaspheming.

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit causes some people to fall from grace.

The Calvinists are wrong. Anyone who listens to the Holy Spirit knows that while God's mercy is not conditional if one asks for it with a true heart, one's growth in God is mandatory, not an option. Either you follow God's guidance, or you follow your own or other people's. And following anything not borne of God is blasphemy, perhaps especially so if this happens after you have accepted salvation.

I hope I'm making sense here.

To sum it up more simply: Once saved, always saved, if one engages in the cooperative work with God to work out the details of one's salvation. If one denies God's urgings through the Holy Spirit, one has not accepted the terms of salvation, one is holding on to the things of the world, and therefore one was never saved to begin with.

2006-11-10 09:32:34 · answer #6 · answered by Gestalt 6 · 0 1

The OSAS theory is not really supported by Scripture. There are lots of verses in the Bible which warn christians against losing salvation.

2006-11-10 09:28:42 · answer #7 · answered by atreadia 4 · 1 1

They are already stored. They have been stored by means of Jesus now not themselves. No character can retailer themselves as salvation comes from God on my own. By the best way, Jesus gave a commandment to his fans to head out and unfold the phrase approximately the salvation he presents to the complete global. You can feel or now not feel as you decide on however do not blame Christians for following the orders of God Himself.

2016-09-01 10:31:06 · answer #8 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

I'm just a believer,no intense theology.I believe Jesus died once,for sin.So the only thing that could separate me from salvation would be to walk away from HIM.I believe it says grieving the Holy Spirit is what can separate us from Him as well.All I know is I never want to loose it,but that's not why I do what I do.I truly want to please the Father,but believe when I don't I am forgiven when I ask.

2006-11-10 09:46:02 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

OK atredia, name a few of them, how about a couple, well, how about just ONE? You can't because there aren't any.

If you believe you can lose salvation then you are saying that the blood of Jesus was not powerful enough to do the job. WRONG!

If you believe that you can lose your salvation wouldn't it be better to kill yourself when you ARE saved so you didn't have to worry about losing it ?

2006-11-10 09:34:15 · answer #10 · answered by Traveler 3 · 1 0

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