so someone please explain the concept of the 'Trinity' to me...?

Question

God is one of three and three in one?

1=God=A
1=Jesus=B
1=Holy Ghost=C

A+B+C=1+1+1=1??

Your common example: Water exists in three forms, solid, liquid and gas.

It is in a different physical state YES, but the basic composition remains the same, two molecules of Hydrogen and one molecule of Oxygen - H20. God and Holy Ghost are spirits but Jesus was a man flesh & bones (according to the Bible). So they are NOT the same then. Any answers?

And if any one of these three were to be polluted, wouldn't ALL three get polluted? if you added color to the water, the ice cubes would be colored too. Any answers?

Don't ask me to to 'just believe' because its too late for that. Islam demands that we ask these questions.

Also, how is it that word 'trinity' does not appear in the bible? Did you know that is found in the Qur'an atleast three times?

Answer 1

Salam brother aziz,
i am a Muslim now but i was raised Buddhist with many Christians in my family. when i was sent to Sunday school (unwillingly) this concept boggled my mind! it's something i've been trying to grasp, just so as to understand the Christian belief to this day.

***i'll be adding this to my watchlist in hopes that i might figure it out.

salam to all

Answer 2

The Old Testament was very firm about the fact that there was only one God, but once the Christian Church was formed, it had to work out where Jesus and the Holy Spirit fitted in If Jesus was God, and the Holy Spirit was God, and God the Father was God, did that mean that there were three gods' Or if there was only one God, how was it that there seemed to be three separate persons' This little conundrum caused all sorts of problems, and a whole batch of heresies. Some did not think that Jesus was really God, while others denied his humanity. Some thought that all three persons of the Trinity were just different roles played by the same person, whilst others thought there were just three gods. The Church rejected all these positions, and put forward its own:


The Trinity is one. There are not three gods, but one God in three persons. These divine persons do not divide out the one divinity among themselves, but each of them is God whole and entire.

The divine persons are really different from one another. Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not simply names for different roles played by the same person. The three persons of the Trinity have different origins:

It is the Father who generates,
The Son who is begotten,
And the Holy Spirit who proceeds.

The divine persons are related to one another. Even though they are separate persons, this does not deny their real unity. They still share one nature or substance.

Answer 3

There are with ease too many scriptures at the conclude of Christs ministry, whilst he pleads with the daddy. His pleading with the daddy is what instead is senseless. If he's the father, then why plead with him? There could also be with ease no good judgment to it. Additionally everyone knows that God, is the daddy of Jesus, so while you feel within the trinity, you feel that Jesus is his possess father- he Fathered himself. I get what you are pronouncing regarding the Miracles, however that is in which faith is available in really. He is a God and he could make those matters arise. I feel plenty of the Christian international has been taught that God is complicated and incomprehensible and that we will have to not try to appreciate him- with ease receive Him as our grab and do His will. That makes it tough to seize the trade concept that possibly there is a few well judgment to God and his life. It's the identical procedure that I consider within the construction over Evolution and colossal Bang, for the reason that the production is a whole lot extra logical to me that the reverse 2 theories. Miracles are simply exact to me. The miracles were played to support men and women remember in God and inside the Deity of Jesus. They were played to confirm that he's the Son of God. There was once as soon as a purpose for them. I count on the only approach to be mindful of for certain, is to invite the Lord. For people who ask in faith and open your mind to the solutions the Lord wants you to have, he's going to testify to you if the Trinity is proper or not. He will exhibit you the quality method.

Answer 4

First you should ask this question to any priest and once you are not satisfied with it you can enter this forum! It will be more civilized and confidential!

Gentlemen like you, who believe more in scientific proof to history should know, history at a certain time was scientific. It was noticed and recorded. The record becomes the history.

Now you are questioning about a science that happened before "two thousand" years and recorded.

As you take the example of a fluid (which is the major part of our globe and exists since it arrived ) that could change its form according to the prevailing temperature. You want to compare water with God taking it as an example.

And incase that answer didn't satisfy, you may change your religion as Islam answers all your doubts!

I appreciate your thirst towards the knowledge. But Islam is about 1350 years old from now and you feel Islam answers all your questions.

Coming holy trinity - Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Father: the creator
Son-all those living organism that include human being.
Holy spirit:That soul after leaving a body with blood and flesh enters in "holy spirit" and part of it.

Once you analyse the above it can be done only by God. No one knows where that left soul goes and attains eternity.

So in Jesus the above three were/are seen as "science" and recorded and in short He is the "Holy Trinity"! This happend after crusification!

Islam that was hatched in a "Buddhist" religious holy place in Makha, copied the entire Theological and Religious history of Old Testament and named it as "Holy Quoran" and adapted Prophet Muhammad as the last and final Prophet to our earth sent by God and is claimed in Quoran only, is the last religious book conveyed by God to humans!

For you kind information, Prophet Muammad had a natural death and his grave yard is still very much available at Madina Grand Masque! The entire land was following Buddhism.

At later time the converted Muslims at Makha were trading young girls, excellent women and boys who look attractive! If the followers of Islam had religious principle, surely they would abide by it. So it was permitted, so they did it.

Answer 5

It is simply a false teaching. A teaching imported into some religions from pagan worship. They believed that an all powerful god could 'see' everything, so to 'visualise' this thought, they built statues of the god/s with three faces looking in different directions. This 'group of three' translated into the trinity concept we see taught today. Despite what the scriptures clearly tell us that there is only Jehovah God [Almighty God Exodus 6;3] and his ONLY son, Jesus Christ, some religions had to create a 'personage' to make up the third party. so they personalised God's POWER, The Holy Spirit. Attributing to it the same status as God himself. And because it has been taught for such a long time, it is now widely believed it is true. Because the priests say so. No proof is given. But a lie is still a lie even after two millennium.

Answer 6

The first problem is the assumption that we can understand everything God is and does. An amazing conceit, but one shared by many. Oddly enough, this particular instance has caused the death of many back in the early days of Chirstianity, and it's so damn irrelevant it makes one want to cry.
Once you understand how to live a good life, to love those around you as you love yourself, and can give to others with love in your heart, then worry about the trivia. Those who waste their time on questions such as these are merely avoiding the reality of the message. God doesn't care how many angels YOU think can dance on the head of a pin. He doesn't care if you think god is one in three, three in one, a full house, or an ace high flush. If he did, then scripture wouldn't waste all that time trying to tell people HOW TO LIVE, and instead come with a scantron, or some such.

Answer 7

The hindus have a similar concept, they describe the Godhead as being three different "aspects" God the creator, God the preserver, God the destroyer. Jesus , YHVH, and The holy spirit are ONE. Unified, but different aspects of the one. quite simple once you get a handle on it. \YHVH is the head, Jesus the Heart, the Holy Spirit is the helping hands, all part of the one, but different in function.

Answer 8

God, in and of Himself is one being, his Son, Jesus Christ, he is a diffrent person and the Holy Ghost, also a diffrent guy, so its three individuals. In the King James Version of the Bible(also the same in the Queen Valeria Version), in Matthew 3:16-17 it says, "And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and HE SAW THE SPIRIT OF GOD descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:...And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is MY BELOVED SON, in whom I am well pleased." Thats one example of all three personages as distinct individuals. Here's something to think about, the two parents of a child are seperate individuals, yet they are unified in the well being of their child(you could say that they are one in purpose). Well, then you could imagine that Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit and God are all one in purpose(to help and guide and bless the children of God and to fulfill the plan of God), yet they are three diffrent individuals.

Answer 9

Many Christians begin to learn about the Trinity through knowledge of Baptism. This is also a starting point for others in comprehending why the doctrine matters to so many Christians, even though the doctrine itself teaches that the being of God is beyond complete comprehension. The Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed are structured around profession of the Trinity, and are solemnly professed by converts to Christianity when they receive baptism, and in the Church's liturgy, particularly when celebrating the Eucharist. One or both of these creeds are often used as brief summations of Christian faith by mainstream denominations.

One God
God is one, and the Godhead a single being: The Hebrew Scriptures lift this one article of faith above others, and surround it with stern warnings against departure from this central issue of faith, and of faithfulness to the covenant God had made with them. "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD" (Deuteronomy 6:4) (the Shema), "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" (Deuteronomy 5:7) and, "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel and his redeemer the LORD of hosts: I am the first and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." (Isaiah 44:6). Any formulation of an article of faith which does not insist that God is solitary, that divides worship between God and any other, or that imagines God coming into existence rather than being God eternally, is not capable of directing people toward the knowledge of God, according to the trinitarian understanding of the Old Testament. The same insistence is found in the New Testament: "...there is none other God but one" (1 Corinthians 8:4). The "other gods" warned against are therefore not gods at all, but substitutes for God, and so are, according to St. Paul, simply mythological or are demons.

So, in the trinitarian view, the common conception which thinks of the Father and Christ as two separate beings, is incorrect. The central, and crucial affirmation of Christian faith is that there is one savior, God, and one salvation, manifest in Jesus Christ, to which there is access only because of the Holy Spirit. The God of the Old is still the same as the God of the New. In Christianity, it is understood that statements about a solitary god are intended to distinguish the Hebraic understanding from the polytheistic view, which see divine power as shared by several separate beings, beings which can, and do, disagree and have conflicts with each other. The concept of Many comprising One is quite visible in the Gospel of John, chapter 17, verses 20 through 23.

God exists in three persons

The "Shield of the Trinity" or "Scutum Fidei" diagram of traditional Western Christian symbolism.This one God however exists in three persons, or in the Greek hypostases. God has but a single divine nature. Chalcedonians — Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants — hold that, in addition, the Second Person of the Trinity — God the Son, Jesus — assumed human nature, so that he has two natures (and hence two wills), and is really and fully both true God and true human.


The singleness of God's being and the multiplicity of the Divine Persons together account for the nature of Christian salvation, and disclose the gift of eternal life. "Through the Son we have access to the Father in one Spirit" (Ephesians 2:18). Communion with the Father is the goal of the Christian faith and is eternal life. It is given to humans through the Divine union with humanity in Jesus Christ who, although fully God, died for sinners "in the flesh" to accomplish their redemption, and this forgiveness, restoration, and friendship with God is made accessible through the gift to the Church of the Holy Spirit, who, being God, knows the Divine Essence intimately and leads and empowers the Christian to fulfill the will of God. Thus, this doctrine touches on every aspect of the trinitarian Christian's faith and life; and this explains why it has been so earnestly contended for, throughout Christian history.

Answer 10

it's complicated, but basically it came about to unify some of the christian splinter groups who were beginning to drastically diverge from the common school of thought.

as for the pollution bit; God supposedly humbled himself to the form of man to suffer and forgive sin. when he sucked the mortal coil he was "cleansed" of any such "pollution".

it's implied in the new testament, but the concept wasn't shelled out until about 300 years later, and of course, still early enough for it to be picked up for the writing of the qu'ran.

But hey, what do i know? as an unbeliever i'll spend eternity in Dis anyway. :|

Answer 11

The qur'an was written after the council of Nicea when Constantine defined this relationship between the Gods of the Christians. Until then it was a very contentious issue. When Muhammad was creating the qur'an the idea of the trinity was already well established as Catholic Dogma. The Old Testament of the Jews is very clear that God is just one.