I guess immigration wasnt really a concern in the elections huh? what do you think look at this article?

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http://venturacountystar.com/vcs/opinion_columnists/article/0,1375,VCS_223_5132365,00.html

Answer 1

Propaganda From The Left

Answer 2

All the Arizona law does in confirm the federal law passed in 1996 where a local police officer stops someone for a different reason and the officer suspects the person may be in the USA illegally, that person would be brought in and put in front of a federal immigration official. After that the federal officer would deal with the issue as they do now. They would run the person's information through a computer to confirm whether they are legal or not. At that point it is up to the federal government because immigration is a federal matter. This works in the same way when a local officer suspects illegal drugs, the suspect may be turned over to federal officers. The Arizona justice system will deport no one as thay is a US federal responsibility and the federal government will decide each case.

Answer 3

Not the least bit surprised actually. While there has been a lot of noise made about the immigration...it is usually by the same small group of people. I notice other countries don't have the kinds of problems that the US does, not even those with more lax immigrations laws than america. I admit I dont have the answer, I don't calim to....it just seems to me that part of the problem is that the countries of origin of these illegals (most of whom according to people I know that work bringing them INTO the US are from places other than mexico, central or South America; places like Africa, Asia, the Middle East, and Eastern Europe) are making no effort to prevent people form leaving their country illegally. Remember that most countries have laws outlining the proper procedures for someone to leave the country as well as enter, and those that simply LET their citizens leave unchecked are as much, if not more, to blame as the people that are leaving illegally. Do you realiza that it is easier to get INTO the US illegally than to get OUT illiegally and most other countries are not hesitant to either incarcerate any American that is there illegaly, or immeidately send them back to the states, while the us, if the financial obligation to send the illegal back where they came from won't be picked up by the country of origin usually just lest them stay...unless the country of origin is Mexico, them they just get driven back across the border.

Of course now that Mexico is going to be requiring all person entering the country to have a passport (usually Americans don't need one) I wonder how long before they decide that since the people that the US is trying to return don't have passports, they don't have to let them in. Give them time, they'll do it.

Answer 4

I think it's high time for Mexico/Mexicans to 'do the job that americans won't be doing for them', that's what I think...namely, fix Mexico up and make it so that their economy support their own people, and they need to have a good hard critical look at the damn catholics, while they're at it...that's what I think. Also, how many states actually put measures on the ballot directly addressing immigration? The ones that didn't are the ones where there's been chronic problems of high-handed fiddling and corruption etc...at least, that's my view...Arizona, one state in the Union that was heavily impacted by illegal immigration from Mexico, saw ALL of its' immigration-related ballot measures pass.
ALL.

The border fence bill has been signed into law. The border states will still have to show leadership on the issue, and ensure that it actually gets built, where and if needed. The better a partner that other countries are on immigration, the less fences will be needed...but, the provision is there to build fence. Kudos to Congress for having the intestinal fortitude to carry that one through!

Answer 5

Thank you for sharing the link to this article. What caught my eye most was this statement in " " below.

"There may never be a better time to deal fairly with the immigration reform issue, repair our image and improve our standing in Latin America and the rest of the world.

It's time to end the divisive talk about this issue, build a bipartisanship consensus and create a fair, efficient and lasting immigration reform system to the mutual benefit of Americans, immigrants and citizens throughout Latin America.

This is our chance to lift the torch of Lady Liberty and to shine."

I personally never have been quite convinced the immigrants (legal or otherwise) have or are one of the serious problems of our society. I do not agree and will not support illegal immigration.
On the other hand, if my family was starving because every means to support them was taken away from me, perhaps I might join those people who come with a dream of a better life. Now before anyone starts to bl;ast me with their view on this, I like to ask that you put yourself (if you can) in their place. After all what are we all? if not immigrants of fourth fifth generation or whatever. Where are founding Fathers and their people of those times "legal immigrants here"? any way,...it is wise to consider following such good suggestions as that made above in that article. Perhaps we can begin to close this dark page in our history also.

Answer 6

The only reason immigration wasn't addressed so much was we had so many other pressing problems Arizona addressed the problem and I feel that they are right. we should close the borders and maybe help Mexico become a better country. We built this one to our standards and now they want our language to accommodate them they want to use our schools and emergency rooms and our streets and well let them fix what is wrong in their country , we will help them but this is our home and when they come over with their whole families and rent one small apt for 12 people hell yes they can work cheaper, they put our people out of work and they are arrogant enough to demand that we write the labels on our medicine and food in their language. We are all immigrants here but our families had to learn to speak English before they could get citizenship. the Mexicans want to just come here use everything we paid our tax dollars to build and expect us to take care of them. I say no way.

Answer 7

Frank Moraga is The Star's director of diversity and general manager of Mi Estrella, The Star's bilingual weekly newspaper. He can be reached at [e-mail].

What else would this biased person write,he has a very vested interested in the advancement of the causes to promote more illegals.So I place no credence to his editorial under the guise of news.Its just more ca ca.

If you are foolish enough to think that other country's don't have problems with immigration them you haven't read any posts from the UK.and are blind to facts.

My state of Arizona not only addressed the issue they took action on it.At least we know thru every day experience what harm comes to our state from the onslaught of illegal aliens into our border state.Don't get to giddy with a Democratic win ,they will not be any blanket amnesty for illegal aliens.It will not happen.

Answer 8

I think the papers who are writing that 'immigration doomed GOP' are papers who hope they can paint a hard line on illegal immigration as political poison. Look at the list in the article of what really mattered to voters, besides illegal immigration, and tell me what of that entire list GOP could have run on besides immigration. Iraq? Corruption? Morals?

You work with what you've got. Clearly a majority are against illegal immigration. In Arizona they voted out some Republican seats and voted in Dems to protest Iraq and disregard for the middle class, but the lowest passage rate of their 4 anti-illegal immigration measures was 71%, and they collected NOT ONE CENT to push those measures before the election. Support was overwhelming to cut in state tuition, bail for illegals here, etc.

In Colorado similarly, voters voted out a Republican governor and voted in a Democrat, but passed both illegal immigration measures on their ballot, including one that requires their Attorney General to sue the federal government for lack of enforcement of immigration laws.

Illegal immigration is a huge issue and how it is handled may well be the big issue in 2008. This year Iraq and Foley overwhelmed the GOP, however, and some of the GOP was on the other side of the immigration question, in any event.

Answer 9

I got a "page not found" and a recurring program assertion on that link...but yea...seems the wedge was the iraq conflict...no one said immigration once...

Answer 10

I was only concerned about gay marriage, I don't want to be an old maid.