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why so many times did Jesus say...my father has sent me...and , our father up above in Heaven...and who was he praying to when he said..."Forgive them father, for they know not what they do."? and one more please...when he was about to be handed over to the Romans...who was he talking to as he knelt by the Rock...do you believe, that if he were, the Trinity...would he be talking to himself?Not a bashing question, but a courius one....

2006-11-09 13:41:25 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Dear friend The trinity is not just Jesus or it would just be called The one instead of the trinity. Trinity means three. This three would be the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. The trinity makes up the God head. please read.

Hebrews 1:8 {But to the Son, he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom.}

This quotation is from Psa. 45:6 and relates to the Godhead of Christ.


CHRIST AS GOD

This verse has proved offensive to commentators who apparently resent such a blunt reference to Christ as God; but all kinds of learned arguments, predicated upon the Greek word, whether nominative or vocative, are not able to obscure the obvious and only meaning. Such would-be translations as "God is thy throne," or "Thy throne is God," etc., do not make sense nor harmonize with anything else in the Bible. God is not a chair to be sat upon; and no throne could possibly be God! The reluctance of people to allow so forthright a declaration of Christ's deity has been often noted. Bruce commented on this, saying "That he should be addressed as God has seemed too daring to many commentators who seek to evade it or explain it away." F16 Significantly, the most widely accepted versions of the New Testament allow it to stand as here and in KJV and RSV. Hebrews 1:8 must therefore be allowed to take its place as a witness of the eternal power and Godhead of Christ. Other passages bearing the same witness are; John 1:1; 20:28; Acts 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Philp. 2:6; Col. 2:9; Titus 2:13; 2 Pet. 1:1; and 1 John 5:20. To be sure, there are an almost unlimited number of other passages in which Christ's deity must be inferred, as for example, in "Before Abraham was, I AM" ( John 8:58).

A more indirect assault upon the plain meaning of this text is the allegation that would make Psalm 45 merely an epithalamium extolling the virtues of King Solomon (of all people)! Solomon does not fit the declaration here. His throne was not forever and ever; he did not love righteousness, but did love a thousand women; and, as for hating iniquity, he was a gross idolator. No, in the words of Christ himself, "A greater than Solomon is here"!

2006-11-09 13:54:02 · answer #1 · answered by littlebill1966 2 · 0 0

The doctrine of the Holy Trinity states that God is a single Being who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as three persons: the Father; the Son; and the Holy Spirit.

Since the 4th Century AD, in both Eastern and Western Christianity, this doctrine has been stated as "One God in Three Persons," all three of whom, as distinct and co-eternal "persons" share a single Divine nature.

How this works is not fully known and is one the the Christian mysteries.

There is a story told about St Augustine:

Augustine was walking along the seashore trying to figure out the mystery of the Holy Trinity and came up to a little boy. The boy was trying to pour the ocean into a hole in the sand with a seashell. Augustine told the boy what he was doing was impossible. Then the little boy told Augustine that it is also impossible for the mind of man to try to understand the mystery of the Holy Trinity. Then the little boy turned into an angel and disappeared.

With love in Christ.

2006-11-09 16:27:36 · answer #2 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0 0

Jesus, Holy Ghost, and The Father make the trinity and make God. Jesus was with the Father long before the creation of Adam and Eve (Adam and Eve before falling were able to see god) We also know Jesus existed before the creation of this world because when he cast out the demons from a man in the synagogue the demons knew exactly who Jesus was it wasn't the first time they encounter Jesus. If Jesus wasn't God than he would never had been able to do the sacrifice for us. I mean It had to be someone that was holy and without sin to cure the sinful or else the sacrifice would have never been valid. As the word says every man has sin it had to be someone that didn't have the "disease" of sin in order to do the "transfusion".

2016-05-22 01:49:08 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The trinity is ONE God, in THREE persons. Jesus is God in the flesh, a body like you and me, he is part of the trinity. Jesus is not the Father, nor the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is God, but not the Father. The Father is God, but not Jesus.
You think this is difficult. Jesus is fully man. Jesus is fully God. How can He be both? And it does get more complicated. Don't get discouraged-no one understands the trinity-not even the pope (or AC, or Billy Graham, or Jerry Vines, or R C Sproul).

2006-11-09 13:55:23 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Because Jesus was man and God. Both. fully man and fully God. John 1: "in the beginning, the word was with God, and the word was God. ." Also, Jesus said "I and the Father are one", and manymany other verses that do support the trinity if you actually read and pray in the spirirt rather than taking God's word at face value. Hope that helps!

2006-11-09 14:12:21 · answer #5 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

"In the beginning WAS the WORD (Jesus), and the WORD was With (Greek pros = towards, or in intimate communion with) God (the Father), and the Word (Jesus) was God. This One was existing at the time of the beginning with God (the Father). All things were made by Him (the Word) and apart from Him was nothing made of all that was made. ....and the Word became flesh (human) and pitched His tent among us ... (Gospel of John 1:1-3;14) See also Gospel of John 17:verse 5 and 24). Please read it for yourself in the Bible. (the Trinity is Three in One - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. 3 Persons, 1 God). Can't explain it - I just take God at His word ! Hope that helps !

2006-11-09 14:01:17 · answer #6 · answered by wefmeister 7 · 1 0

AS Jesus was sent to answer the prayers of the Jewish people for a Messiah. He would have been talking to the Jewish version of God Yahweh and the Creator of all things (called by many names).
Not at the time as his soul was still in phyical form. therefore his seat would still be empty waiting for him to complete his mission on Earth.
Holy spirit=THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS
the Father = Yahweh
the son= Jesus( was supposed to be named Emmanual when born)

2006-11-09 14:56:09 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Many Christians begin to learn about the Trinity through knowledge of Baptism. This is also a starting point for others in comprehending why the doctrine matters to so many Christians, even though the doctrine itself teaches that the being of God is beyond complete comprehension. The Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed are structured around profession of the Trinity, and are solemnly professed by converts to Christianity when they receive baptism, and in the Church's liturgy, particularly when celebrating the Eucharist. One or both of these creeds are often used as brief summations of Christian faith by mainstream denominations.

One God
God is one, and the Godhead a single being: The Hebrew Scriptures lift this one article of faith above others, and surround it with stern warnings against departure from this central issue of faith, and of faithfulness to the covenant God had made with them. "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD" (Deuteronomy 6:4) (the Shema), "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" (Deuteronomy 5:7) and, "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel and his redeemer the LORD of hosts: I am the first and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." (Isaiah 44:6). Any formulation of an article of faith which does not insist that God is solitary, that divides worship between God and any other, or that imagines God coming into existence rather than being God eternally, is not capable of directing people toward the knowledge of God, according to the trinitarian understanding of the Old Testament. The same insistence is found in the New Testament: "...there is none other God but one" (1 Corinthians 8:4). The "other gods" warned against are therefore not gods at all, but substitutes for God, and so are, according to St. Paul, simply mythological or are demons.

So, in the trinitarian view, the common conception which thinks of the Father and Christ as two separate beings, is incorrect. The central, and crucial affirmation of Christian faith is that there is one savior, God, and one salvation, manifest in Jesus Christ, to which there is access only because of the Holy Spirit. The God of the Old is still the same as the God of the New. In Christianity, it is understood that statements about a solitary god are intended to distinguish the Hebraic understanding from the polytheistic view, which see divine power as shared by several separate beings, beings which can, and do, disagree and have conflicts with each other. The concept of Many comprising One is quite visible in the Gospel of John, chapter 17, verses 20 through 23.

God exists in three persons

The "Shield of the Trinity" or "Scutum Fidei" diagram of traditional Western Christian symbolism.This one God however exists in three persons, or in the Greek hypostases. God has but a single divine nature. Chalcedonians — Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants — hold that, in addition, the Second Person of the Trinity — God the Son, Jesus — assumed human nature, so that he has two natures (and hence two wills), and is really and fully both true God and true human.


The singleness of God's being and the multiplicity of the Divine Persons together account for the nature of Christian salvation, and disclose the gift of eternal life. "Through the Son we have access to the Father in one Spirit" (Ephesians 2:18). Communion with the Father is the goal of the Christian faith and is eternal life. It is given to humans through the Divine union with humanity in Jesus Christ who, although fully God, died for sinners "in the flesh" to accomplish their redemption, and this forgiveness, restoration, and friendship with God is made accessible through the gift to the Church of the Holy Spirit, who, being God, knows the Divine Essence intimately and leads and empowers the Christian to fulfill the will of God. Thus, this doctrine touches on every aspect of the trinitarian Christian's faith and life; and this explains why it has been so earnestly contended for, throughout Christian history.

2006-11-11 10:14:08 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

He is part of the trinity, the triune God. When Jesus came to earth, he took on the flesh of man, so he embodied the flesh as well as the Godhood. It is hard to understand, that's where faith comes in, the substance of things not seen. So, I believe he gave up his "Godhood" to come as man - to identify with us and us with him - he became vulnerable but knew he would return to his throne. It's amazing that we will be with him for all eternity, I hope to ask him many questions. :) oh, and for 'watchman', alot of empty words that mean nothing. sorry.

2006-11-09 13:48:00 · answer #9 · answered by Forever 6 · 0 0

I don't believe in the Trinity. The world "Trinity" isn't even in the Bible.

2006-11-09 13:45:01 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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