Does Hebrews 1:8 speak of God speaking to the Son as God?

Question

"But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O GOD, will last for ever and ever..."

Answer 1

Yes. This is a NT quote from Psalm 45. I think verse 9 shows this more pointedly:

9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”

This passage shows God (the Son) is anointed by God (the Father) with the oil of gladness.

There are actually quite a number of passages in the OT where the Father speaks to the Son; the Son speaks to the Father; and where all three, Father, Son and Spirit, speak to each other. These verses form the basis for the Christian understanding of God's tri-unity, or trinity.

Peace.

Answer 2

Dear friend I hope this will answer your question.

Hebrews 1:8 {But of the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; And the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of thy kingdom.}

This quotation is from Psa. 45:6 and relates to the Godhead of Christ.


CHRIST AS GOD

This verse has proved offensive to commentators who apparently resent such a blunt reference to Christ as God; but all kinds of learned arguments, predicated upon the Greek word, whether nominative or vocative, are not able to obscure the obvious and only meaning. Such would-be translations as "God is thy throne," or "Thy throne is God," etc., do not make sense nor harmonize with anything else in the Bible. God is not a chair to be sat upon; and no throne could possibly be God! The reluctance of people to allow so forthright a declaration of Christ's deity has been often noted. Bruce commented on this, saying "That he should be addressed as God has seemed too daring to many commentators who seek to evade it or explain it away." F16 Significantly, the most widely accepted versions of the New Testament allow it to stand as here and in KJV and RSV. Hebrews 1:8 must therefore be allowed to take its place as a witness of the eternal power and Godhead of Christ. Other passages bearing the same witness are; John 1:1; 20:28; Acts 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Philp. 2:6; Col. 2:9; Titus 2:13; 2 Pet. 1:1; and 1 John 5:20. To be sure, there are an almost unlimited number of other passages in which Christ's deity must be inferred, as for example, in "Before Abraham was, I AM" ( John 8:58).

A more indirect assault upon the plain meaning of this text is the allegation that would make Psalm 45 merely an epithalamium extolling the virtues of King Solomon (of all people)! Solomon does not fit the declaration here. His throne was not forever and ever; he did not love righteousness, but did love a thousand women; and, as for hating iniquity, he was a gross idolator. No, in the words of Christ himself, "A greater than Solomon is here"!

Answer 3

Nope.

Hebrews 1:8:

RS reads: “Of the Son he says, ‘Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever.’” (KJ, NE, TEV, Dy, JB, NAB have similar renderings.) However, NW reads: “But with reference to the Son: ‘God is your throne forever and ever.’” (AT, Mo, TC, By convey the same idea.)

Which rendering is harmonious with the context? The preceding verses say that God is speaking, not that he is being addressed; and the following verse uses the expression “God, thy God,” showing that the one addressed is not the Most High God but is a worshiper of that God. Hebrews 1:8 quotes from Psalm 45:6, which originally was addressed to a human king of Israel. Obviously, the Bible writer of this psalm did not think that this human king was Almighty God. Rather, Psalm 45:6, in RS, reads “Your divine throne.” (NE says, “Your throne is like God’s throne.” JP [verse 7]: “Thy throne given of God.”) Solomon, who was possibly the king originally addressed in Psalm 45, was said to sit “upon Jehovah’s throne.” (1 Chron. 29:23, NW) In harmony with the fact that God is the “throne,” or Source and Upholder of Christ’s kingship, Daniel 7:13, 14 and Luke 1:32 show that God confers such authority on him.

Hebrews 1:8, 9 quotes from Psalm 45:6, 7, concerning which the Bible scholar B. F. Westcott states: “The LXX. admits of two renderings: [ho the·os´] can be taken as a vocative in both cases (Thy throne, O God, . . . therefore, O God, Thy God . . . ) or it can be taken as the subject (or the predicate) in the first case (God is Thy throne, or Thy throne is God . . . ), and in apposition to [ho the·os´ sou] in the second case (Therefore God, even Thy God . . . ). . . . It is scarcely possible that [’Elo·him´] in the original can be addressed to the king. The presumption therefore is against the belief that [ho the·os´] is a vocative in the LXX. Thus on the whole it seems best to adopt in the first clause the rendering: God is Thy throne (or, Thy throne is God), that is ‘Thy kingdom is founded upon God, the immovable Rock.’”—The Epistle to the Hebrews (London, 1889), pp. 25, 26.

Bible Translations Referred to in the above:

AS - American Standard Version (1901; as printed in 1944), American Revision Committee.

AT - The Bible—An American Translation (1935), J. M. Powis Smith and Edgar J. Goodspeed.

By - The Bible in Living English (published in 1972), Steven T. Byington.

CBW - The New Testament—A Translation in the Language of the People (1937; as printed in 1950), Charles B. Williams.

CC - The New Testament (1941; as printed in 1947), Confraternity of Christian Doctrine Revision.

CKW - The New Testament—A New Translation in Plain English (1963), Charles K. Williams.

Da - The ‘Holy Scriptures’ (1882; as printed in 1949), J. N. Darby.

Dy - Catholic Challoner-Douay Version (1750; as printed in 1941).

ED - The Emphatic Diaglott (1864; as printed in 1942), Benjamin Wilson.

Int - The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures (1969).

JB - The Jerusalem Bible (1966), Alexander Jones, general editor.

JP - The Holy Scriptures According to the Masoretic Text (1917), Jewish Publication Society of America.

KJ - King James Version (1611; as printed in 1942).

Kx - The Holy Bible (1954; as printed in 1956), Ronald A. Knox.

LEF - The Christian’s Bible—New Testament (1928), George N. LeFevre.

LXX - Greek Septuagint Version.

Mo - A New Translation of the Bible (1934), James Moffatt.

NAB - The New American Bible, Saint Joseph Edition (1970).

NE - The New English Bible (1970).

NTIV - The New Testament in an Improved Version (1808), published in London.

Ro - The Emphasised Bible (1897), Joseph B. Rotherham.

RS - Revised Standard Version, Second Edition (1971).

Sd - The Authentic New Testament (1958), Hugh J. Schonfield.

SE - The Simple English Bible—New Testament, American Edition (1981).

TC - The Twentieth Century New Testament, Revised Edition (1904).

TEV - Good News Bible—Today’s English Version (1976).

We - The New Testament in Modern Speech (1929; as printed in 1944), Richard F. Weymouth.

Yg - The Holy Bible, Revised Edition (1887), Robert Young.

Answer 4

Yes. The whole Chapter speaks of the superiority of the uncreated Son of God to angels. It is quoted from Psalm 45.

Answer 5

Yes, verse 6 emphasizes His authority too.

Hebrews 1:6
And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him."

Other important verses that show Jesus' divinity.

Matthew 28:18
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 8:58
"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"

Colossians 2:9
For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form

Answer 6

The gods of maximum religions are stated to speak a similar language because the most hardship-free language between the people of the religion. i might want to predict that many religious people right here might want to assert that God speaks each and every of the international's languages. that's a strong rhetorical question. i might want to also upload as a counterargument for what I stated above, "So if I ran out into the streets and began yelling gibberish sounds might want to God understand what i develop into declaring?"

Answer 7

the Bible says God was in Jesus reconcilling the word back untp Himself......and again I and the Father are one.as for what u wrote that is the Holy Ghost prophesing thru David in the book of psalms......aint we glad that God never changes?

Answer 8

i hear you...most peole think of the trinity...but just before Judas turned Jesus in to the Romans...he walked to the woods and had a talk with GOD....did they all miss that part...if he were one...who was he talking to ...and why was he afraid....it said he sweat blood....

Answer 9

no...thanks for the 2 points

Answer 10

YES